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Are You There God? It's Us The Kane Boys
The conversation covers a range of topics including religion, spirituality, and personal beliefs. The speakers discuss their experiences with Christianity, the concept of heaven and hell, and the role of faith in their lives. They also touch on the idea of worship and the importance of finding a balance between religious practices and personal responsibilities. The conversation highlights the different perspectives and interpretations of religious teachings and the challenges of navigating one's faith in a complex world. In this conversation, the speakers discuss various topics including drug use, CBD, hallucinogenics, religion and much more. They also touch on the importance of authenticity and the beauty of simple moments in life.
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Speaker 2:Since my girls can't make it, I gotta be it all. Since my girls can't make it, should I offer them double time too? I was like I said on a fucking group chat, I was like emergency, emergency, podcast, double time did you really?
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Speaker 2:Yeah, cause it wasn't on the books. Yeah, and then it was just like a spontaneous type of type of vibe.
Speaker 1:Let's get right into how long ago did you make the logo?
Speaker 2:this logo. Yeah, I don't know, probably like two years ago it's crazy.
Speaker 1:It must have been.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because yeah, it's just coming to fruition now. Yeah, I've always wondered like, yeah, it's just coming to a fruition now. Yeah, I've always wondered like, just get right into it.
Speaker 1:Like. What is it about like?
Speaker 2:uppity that you enjoy so much. What like caffeine, yeah, or like whatever, yeah, just in general. Like I've never seen someone be able to drink so many energy drinks in one sitting and kind of just seem unfazed by it. Like are you internally like your heart's just fucking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So I think I literally thrive off the anxiety. Okay, having like the pass that I do.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It almost gets you to a point where, like I'll get you, A lot of people feel this too, Like you get tired if you drink too much caffeine. Yeah, I think it's actually a sign of sleep deprivation if you're consuming too much caffeine and then it's making you tired.
Speaker 2:But yeah, no, I just I could tell you the science behind that actually. Yeah, what is it so? Caffeine is an adenosine blocker. Adenosine is like what makes you feel tired. Yeah, so when you consume caffeine, it stops your adenosine receptors. And then, the minute the caffeine wears off, it floods the receptors.
Speaker 1:So caffeine is not actually giving you energy, it's making you less tired, yeah.
Speaker 2:Basically. I'm sure there's aspects of it too that do give you energy, and if you have sugar inside of it as well, yeah. But yeah, it's an adenosine blocker, so like. That's why you could drink like a few cups of coffee and then, just out of nowhere, you just get extremely exhausted because the adenosine just flooded your brain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, flooded and then stopped so.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it's always interesting to see kind of I mean, I hope you're open and talk about like your past I mean you're not doing details and shit like that but is it? I feel like everyone needs advice or something to kind of you know, pick them up or just like something to go to. It just seems right now yours is fucking energy drink. Yeah, no, it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, depending on what I'm doing. I mean something like this yeah, like a podcast Going out, like socially, like I'm not drinking anymore, like that's what I'm like. Everyone's like getting the motion. You know what I mean. They're drinking, they're smoking, so I want that too. Yeah, I mean just not. I don't want to just sit there like so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel, and decided not to drink and I realized that it's not even going out and drinking, that makes you feel comfortable. It's just sitting there talking to people with something in your hand. Yeah, so like, even if, like I remember, uh, paul and I went out, uh, recently and we I mean we drank before um, and while we were out I I told the bartender, I was like wow, just make me some shit. That actually looks like a drink.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and um, and I had it in my hand and it was like this it was the same effect yeah like it's just something about, just like being a part of it and looking like you're actively involved, that actually kind of like it's fulfilling. I feel like we're pack animals and and we like being a part of something. So to sit there and just be like the odd person out is just what. What's the point of going out, you know so no, I feel you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's definitely why, uh, like then at a kai I was just fucking whacking back expressos like it was nobody's business. They're like you, sure you want another one?
Speaker 2:I'm like, yes, I don't care so you like the uppities more than like for me. I me yeah.
Speaker 1:I never did nothing, even when I was in addiction. I would never do anything that made me down. Yeah, like, not intentionally, you'll get down from the come down of something. Yeah, naturally, coming down from anything you're coming down, but not like intentionally I would take something that would put me down, even drinking I never really liked doing alone because, uh, socially it's like, uh like uppity, but if you drink alone you're, you're kind of you're gonna be getting depressed bro I fucking love drinking alone this shit's bad yeah but yeah, it's um, it's definitely yeah, for me like there's something about boozing, bro.
Speaker 2:I it's honestly like weird to think about, but I've actually had some like spiritual experiences while drunk and alone. It's fucking weird. Yeah, yeah, I feel like when I boo sometimes it definitely. I mean in different cultures they use alcohol to like connect to certain things. I mean it's called spirits. I actually don't know the like the background on that, but I think they're called spirits for a reason, because I've had some fucking experiences, yeah, I mean, yeah, bro, on some Bible shit, like Jesus turned water into wine. You know Like it's like now that I'm actually thinking about it. Yeah, he did that to meet a need, though what? Like the need of people to want to get fucked up yeah, well, I don't.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, I don't think he really condoned them getting getting it all fucked up, but like that's what he did anytime. He went into a town and started like like he didn't just sit there and just sit down one day and start preaching. Like he went into a town, he started healing first and then he sat down and gave people a like the word. Like when he broke the bread and multiplied all the bread and multiplied all the fish. Like right after that is when he started bringing the word he didn't like, like he met a need first so at the party.
Speaker 1:He, he did that to meet a need. He wasn't like here's this wine to get fucked up. People were in, people were in need and he so he.
Speaker 2:So he met that need bro, that that sounds like a good sales tactic. Yeah, not even on some, even on some fucked up shit and disrespect towards it. But it's almost kind of like that's how you sell something too Right, like you meet someone's need and then you just kind of get them in your pocket and you can kind of sell whatever you want.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I'm not saying that he's selling anything bad, obviously you know Right. But yeah, that's interesting. I wonder what like God's thought on liquor is. I mean, I'm sure he wouldn't approve of the state of the world right now with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean biblically. A lot of people have drank, get drunk and whatnot. The consumption of alcohol is okay, but the indulgence in drunkenness is what's not. So drinking biblically isn't really. The consumption of alcohol is okay, but the indulgence and drunkenness is what's not yeah. So like drinking biblically isn't really like for like for me, like so, like. Like you got to define sin right. Like your, your own moral compass, your own moral transgression. Like like sin, knowing what's right but doing wrong instead Sin.
Speaker 2:Interesting.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. So it's like it's different, like for me, like I know what it would lead to, I know where it brings my mind, I know what it makes me think of. So therefore I can't do it. I know what's right. I choose wrong instead sin. But for other people they're just like oh wine, like cool, like I'll have a glass, I'll have two glasses, all three glasses. But but then, biblically, the indulgence and drunkenness, like Noah after the flood and whatnot, plants a vineyard, crushes grapes, makes wine, gets all smashed, and then his kids can't even like look at him because of like the laws at that time that God had established, like they couldn't even see him, like they had to conceal him because of how exposed he was. He like got drunk and like got all naked and shit.
Speaker 2:Jeez, yeah bro, I him. Um, because of how exposed he was, he like got drunk and like got all naked and shit. Yeah, bro, I mean shit bro. One time you saw me drunk and naked, I did. Yeah, yeah, one time I I came back from some extravaganza and I thought it was a good idea to like walk into our, our house, smoking a black and mild, and then I had some random idea that I needed to fucking take a bath.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, like I hadn't taken a bath like for like over a decade probably and I like and I fell asleep with the fucking water running with the black and mild in your hand. Yeah it's crazy. So, yeah, mikey came in and sold me butt ass, nigga, and he saved my ass from drowning. Yo, yeah that, yeah, yeah. I look back on times like that and it's like equally funny but also just kind of sad. You know, it's like what the fuck was I doing?
Speaker 1:but it's funny to laugh about like in retrospect, but like I could have ended my life that night yeah, it's wild, it's all a season, dude, like what you're where you're at, like that's not some shit you would do right now no, definitely, you know I mean it was just like a, like a season of life just doing x, y and z. Yeah, you know what I mean. I had my weird, weird seasons yeah, we all do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, uh, yes. So to get, yeah, I definitely, like I know that you kind of took like a different route and I never really realized like how versed you are like on the bible and like kind of like the stories behind it. So it's always interesting to hear like what you have to say about shit like that, because, um, I definitely think like I mean, I don't really know what I believe in at this point. I've been going back to like christian church and I'm trying to find that way.
Speaker 2:I think, growing up catholic it fucks it all up yeah, bro fucks it all up yeah, like, like, growing up catholic is tough too and and our dad was a computer technician and he would do jobs for the priests and they would always have viruses. And it's not doing the catholic stigma of being fucking pedos and all the shit like that when the priest of your church has a bunch of fucked up morons yeah, so um yeah, and then there is definitely like overlap between, like catholic and christianity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it always made it difficult like from from seeing that aspect and then growing up and I was always kind of like a conspiracy theorist. But as we know now a lot of the conspiracies that like we thought were conspiracies are actually real fucking life. So it's it's tough to navigate but I I guess I'm realizing more is that, the more I can kind of I mean something, there's something out there, regardless, right like right like. I saw this comedian, um, and he was talking about like atheists and people that believe in God. He was like atheists that believe in nothing. He's like if all this can come from nothing, that's some magical, fucking nothing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then I think he's a Christian comedian actually, and then he's like so you come from nothing, and then when you die, you go back to nothing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So you become one with your creator it's fucking funny.
Speaker 1:He's like that's called christian.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's fucking funny man. So, yeah, yeah it's. It's definitely hard to navigate to and I also think that in this day and age, when it's information overload, it's hard to choose a side. Yeah, like you have one person telling you one thing that like you trust and you believe in, and you have someone else saying it and and it's someone in the middle saying something, and then it puts you in a place of complacency where I'm kind of content. Where I am, I know I have to make a move in my life, but there's information overload out there in the world. So where do I go right? And then you try and take a little from here, a little from here, a little from here, yeah, and little from here and a little from here, yeah, and then you're still like dissatisfied. It's almost kind of better to just say fuck neutrality and choose a path sometimes and kind of stick to it. Yeah, you know, because like the in-between can be very difficult, but there's a lot of teetering in that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I think definitely one of the things that I struggle with was that, growing up Catholic, a lot of people do. Catholic churches are some of the biggest churches in the world like you go to, like saint kevin, saint martha, saint mary's, all these churches they're huge, bro, like they pack like they pack what these mega churches are packing yeah like they're packing 500, a thousand people. And then they got another balcony, another balcony they're all they're all up doing it.
Speaker 1:Um, so, going over from realizing that like, uh, catholicism is uh, I don't want to say a branch, but like, so you got the umbrella of like christianity right, like. So what does it mean to be like lutheran, pentecostal, episcopalian catholic, roman catholic, non-denominational, all that stuff like, virtually like, if you see jesus christ as a son of god, like, and that you believe he like died and rose again, was crucified for our sins, yada, yada, not to say in a disrespectful way, but you're under the umbrella of christianity. And the thing about catholicism, though, is that, like we, like, we were like partaking in, like ritualistic kind of stuff. Like you walk in, like you got to dip your finger in water, yeah, you got to like, do this, and you don't even realize it, no, and you're just. And then you walk over to the like, the center of the church.
Speaker 1:You have to take a knee before you get in the get in the pupil. During that, you're sitting standing kneeling. You all get up together to eat bread at the same time. Yeah, and you. So one of the major teachings from the catholic church is that, like you, uh, you got to go to the priest, right, you can't really be forgiven for your sins unless you go to the. Go to the priest, yeah and uh, but biblically, like, jesus is the high priest, so we can just go straight to him. We don't need like a middleman anymore. That's why he died you know we don't need a middleman anymore.
Speaker 1:So going to the whole priest situation, that's just something that isn't even in the bible, that we just do in catholicism. So but uh, taking, like you have to unlearn stuff, you know what I mean. So like I went into this Pentecostal program I've been here for the last four years now and like all that stuff I had to like slowly unlearn. And then one of the things biblically in Catholicism is you're baptized at birth to meet one of your seven sacraments. And like that doesn't make any, uh, like that doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense, and hear me out, because baptism is a, uh, a public declaration of you burying your old life. And if you were just born, what old life do you have to bury?
Speaker 2:yeah, you know what? I mean well, they said that you're burying the original sin of the apple and yeah, whatnot? Yeah, that's what jesus did. You know what I?
Speaker 1:mean so, um, so uh, yeah, so to. And then to back that up with the scripture, so uh, it's collagens 2, 12 to 14, and it says that, um, having been buried with him in baptism and raised with him through our faith in the power of god to raise him from the dead, when we were dead and our sins and the uncircumcision of our sinful nature, christ died for us, um, and in that he forgave us of all of our sins and the uncircumcision of our sinful nature. Christ died for us, and in that he forgave us of all of our sins, canceling the written code, which is the old testament with its regulations that was against us, instead opposed to us. He took it away and then nailed it to the cross, and that's pretty much what it says, word for word. And so our old flesh, our old blood, what we were in our past, we, we crucify it to the cross, along with him and his sins. And, uh, what that looks like for each person is different, but, like for an infant, it's just non-existent.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's deep. You know what I mean. Like, that's not, I just got you don't really in what? So as an infant, like you're an infant, but like, as you start to grow older, like ages like two, three, four. What's crazy is that, like, you don't have to teach, like uh, I don't want to call them negative behaviors, but yeah, like sin, like in a child, right. So a four-year-old child like mine, yeah, like they, they just take like, you have to teach them like dude.
Speaker 1:That's natural occurring in us like that's just sin like that's just, you live in it, you were born you were conceived in it. But you have to teach them no share because naturally they're just like fuck, that's mine. Yeah, you know, yeah, I want that shit exactly like uh, so stealing you pretty much like yeah, that's mine yeah, not even look at it like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you like I think there's like too much kumbaya shit that like goes around it and like I feel we're human beings living a spiritual experience, or we're fucking spiritual beings living a like human experience, and it's so tough because I feel that we came here to learn lessons and to kind of and to kind of go through it and to be able to like get over these things and but I guess something like that, if you don't have good parents, you like you kind of grow up and you think that these things are kind of fucking normal actually yeah right.
Speaker 2:So that actually will like we'll go into like a different point, right? Yeah, because if you go into like a third world country or something different where they're raised in the idea that what they're doing is right let's take a suicide bomber, for instance they were raised to think that if they go and kill 300 people, that when they die they're going to get 72 versions. It's like people like that that actually believe that they're doing the right thing and they've been programmed their entire life.
Speaker 1:Where do you think they stand as far as, when they meet their maker? You know? So the exact same place that we do, or or that I do, I'm not sure you know. We haven't really gone into like exactly what your beliefs are, but like their belief in that is just as real as me sitting across from you right now, and their belief in that is just as real as what I believe in, because that's all they've ever known and anything that they've learned is contradictory to what we believe. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So it's just as real to them as if yeah like me and you are talking right now like they're they're, they're that convinced and it's like so to try and like, and that's a work of god that changes something like that, like there are people that have you know gone, you know gone from like Muslim to Christianity and vice versa. I've seen it the other way too, and that's just a lack of faith in God. But vice versa now, like starting to develop that curiosity about X, Y and Z is what triggers that encounter. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, we'll never know, but it's like the brain's curiosity. I'm like like say, if god is real, yeah, and this one belief is real, like what happens to people like that is he? Like you know what? Like you would never brought the word of god.
Speaker 1:So you get a pass um, all right, so, okay, so, scripturally, um, during a course of somebody's life there's, you will never have not had an opportunity to accept god, except for grace. Children, um, children are the acceptance like child, a child that never was shown the way or never had the opportunity to be shown the way, unborn children, children that were aborted, all that stuff, heaven, like they have eternal grace, they're good, um, but as far as far as, like adults, like us, like you, will have had the chance at some point in your life, yeah, to either accept or deny, and it's whatever you, whatever you chose, you know and if you deny deny, deny deny, do you think at one point you could then still accept?
Speaker 1:that's what's crazy about christianity and that's something that turns a lot of people off, like like somebody could be in jail right now for for mass murder and the moment before they die, if they chose to accept jesus christ as their lord and savior, like they're accepted into heaven just as just as me and you would be yeah, it's almost kind of like shit.
Speaker 2:I can just be a dickhead my entire life and then, when the time comes, time comes you know Right, but you still got.
Speaker 1:But you still got to give an account.
Speaker 2:For sure, you got to give an account Of everything you've done.
Speaker 1:And how long that conversation is going to be and where that conversation leads Is another.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it might happen, yeah, it might croak before that.
Speaker 1:That fucking conversation finishes.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So you gotta give it a what percent of? How do I phrase that better? Because I feel like when I grew up, it was more of like a fear-based religion. You know, you grow up, don't do this because god's gonna get mad or you're gonna go to hell. So I like for for me. I think that so many people tune into, I mean religion, or even listening to some bullshit on the news about nah, I don't want to get into that fucking shit, but everything is so fear-based right. So I wonder what percent of people actually have true belief versus how many people are believing because they're fearful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I can tell you right now, it's fear that keeps me where I'm at once. I learned it because, um, like jesus says it would be would have been better to have never have known me than to have turned your back on me. So how I view that right is that I'm. It's too late now, like I have to like, like once I learned the way.
Speaker 1:Now I have to stay on it because if I, if I stray from it, um, and then I, you know, let's say something happens and I die straight from it like um now you're fucked yeah, it would. He literally says that it would have been. It would have been better to have never have known me than to have turned your back on me, and that's like. That's deep, like bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because, because I guess the idea would be if you know better than you should do better, right, you know? So, yeah, that's fucking. Yeah, man, religious talk, it's a. It's a tough talk these days. I feel that growing up it was more normal. I mean, we were raised in it, like, but even in schools it was like you would like one nation under god. Yeah, you know, and it's just a lot different these days and and I think the more you do research like, you realize that there's so many different religions and and beliefs and it's like, what the like? Where do I start? Where do I go to?
Speaker 1:um, yeah, it's tough, it's uh it's actually dwindling dude, a lot like. At one point, christianity was projected to be like the number one religion in in everywhere and uh, all across the united states, and now it's, I think, I think, actually, um, uh, not hinduism, muslim, yeah, yeah, people that are practicing islam is what's going to be like. Yeah, you hear about just normal, like average day americans that work at nine to five. They're like, yeah, like this is what I'm following now.
Speaker 2:So is they believe in muhammad correct, or something?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, which is actually kind of crazy, because all of you know.
Speaker 2:What's crazy about that is that I heard Tate talk about this.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And he said like so Islam is the same as being a Muslim, correct?
Speaker 1:I'm not exactly. There might be different. Well, they follow Mile differences.
Speaker 2:They follow the Quran, I believe. Well, they follow the Quran I believe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they follow the Quran.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So he said that Islamic nations are becoming the one true religion, because in America you could go around wearing a shirt saying fuck Jesus, yeah, and he said you can still be in America and you can wear a shirt that says fuck muhammad, and people will literally fuck you up for that yeah, he said he said, no matter where you are, like, people are going to defend their religion and that's what makes it tangible and real.
Speaker 2:Like, if people can shit on your god left and right, then what belief do you have in it? Like to a degree, so like, do I agree with that? Yeah, kind of. Like I understand, you know, so, um, like if you're willing to. But I think that it kind of goes like to your point of that, like it's becoming the most, I don't know, tangible or popular intangibility, like, uh, a lot of, a lot of pentecostal non-denominational churches.
Speaker 1:They have interactions, right, like people. You see people like break out in tongues. You see, I mean, as I'm not gonna like really get too deep into you see people flopping around the floor doing, doing the funky chicken and it's like so it would, it would. And the thing is that if you're in a church that's faking stuff like that, then you actually have no faith in God, because now you're denying the fact that he's actually capable of doing those things in you and now you're faking it because you're saying that he's not capable of it. You know what I mean. But as far as tangibility, when the average Christian walks into a church and they see or they hear during praise and worship, there's an eruption of tongues and then moments later somebody translates it from across the room because nobody knows what they just said, but it's a spiritual gift. They erupted. Now somebody else is erupting in the translation of it. Now you're just a bystander that just is hearing all this stuff.
Speaker 1:What the fuck is going on Exactly, but it starts to spark something you like. Whatever you're feeling and I don't want to say emotion, because you're not let off your emotion, you're let off, let off the spirit. What you're experiencing, what you're feeling these people in these other religions is, is exactly like they're just as convinced as we are. So, like, where's the tangibility in both, in both parties? Like who can, who can? Really have been on one side, experienced it, and now come to this side and experience it and said I really do think this is the way. That's what it takes. It takes somebody to be able to say I was on this side of the fence, now I'm on this side of the fence, the more people that can come out like that and speak up, because there are people that have converted over to Christianity and they can say, hands down, this is where it's at. But like, people need to speak up and say stuff like that, otherwise we're going to be having more. And I'm not. You can. You can follow what you follow.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:At the end of the like. I just think we're. So the thing about Christianity is you're at the end of your life, you're going to spend eternity somewhere, and that's a lot of other religions are just teaching like one ending. They're not teaching a lot about hell. So for Christianity like you're going to spend eternity somewhere and it's either going to be heaven or hell, we're not going to purgatory or Abraham's bosom or whatever it's referred to in the bible, you know like you're either going to hell for the rest of eternity or you're going to heaven, and eternity is a long time.
Speaker 1:It's fucking eternity, yeah, so, um and uh. So that's what's. That's what's crazy about following. It is like, okay, like what am I gonna do now? Like I just learned that. So I, and like a lot of people, think christians are brainwashed. Right, and you take the, you take the term brainwash and you flip it around like dude, maybe that's a good thing. I just washed my brain, like I was just doing some crazy shit on the street. Dude, like you know, like what I'm doing now, like the guy up in the sky ain't teaching me bad shit. You know what I mean like he's turned the other cheek.
Speaker 1:So what's that mean? If somebody, like you know, fucks with me, give them another chance and then they fuck with you too much and then you you learn later cut them off. Yeah, that's it. Like I don't gotta like show up at the dude's house and shoot him.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean, or yeah, or run in his crib with a bomb, like all that stuff yeah, but don't you, because this could just be me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes, when I'm put in a situation and I give someone a couple chances, I'm like I think in my head and I think that it's real. I'm like, oh God wants me to hit you. Do you think that's true? Do you think? But I?
Speaker 1:guess that I think your thought is true.
Speaker 2:I think it's so, like that leads to my next question, right? What percent of people that are religious do you like that are like, okay, well, god wants me to do this, or, um, god told me to move here, god told me to get like. What percent of that do you feel is just them kind of gassing up their own bullshit?
Speaker 1:versus. That's such a common thing, like that's all the time, like, yeah, god wanted us to do this, god led me me to do that, God led me to do this, so dude, it's so high the percentage of like dude. That's like every day I hear that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I hear that every day and it's really like.
Speaker 2:Every time I hear that I'm like did he though Right, you know?
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I feel like that's an overused expression because, dude, there was 400 years of silence in the Bible, right? So when you end the Old Testament and then you begin the Gospels, there was 400 years of silence between there. So our God was silent for a whole 400 years, didn't really talk to anybody, or that's how it was perceived, because that's how the manuscripts line up. So when people are every day we're talking, thousands and thousands of people every day like, oh God, God told me to do that, God told me to do that. I'm like yo, he's like an awful chatty God right now. And you know, just 2000 years ago he was, you know, having a 400 year fast on talking to us, you know so you think about something like that.
Speaker 2:Let me take a little break.
Speaker 1:You think about something like that and I immediately think of that and I lower like half the creditability about what these people are saying. And then the other half, I consider like he never contradicts himself. So if, okay, god calls me to go to church every Sunday, every Sunday I have to go to church. Not only that, there's two services and I have to serve at them both, and I don't actually really get to sit down and listen to the message, because I'm greeting people at the door, after that I'm passing around beverages. So God never contradicts himself.
Speaker 1:So if his will is for me to serve at church for four hours every Sunday, but then his will is also for me to be a father, and for two of those four hours, there's like a dire need in my family that needs to be met, according to my children and their wife um and my wife. So what? What am I going to do? Like they need to go to karate. I need to take my kids to karate. If I am at church for four hours and I can't take my kids to karate anymore, now I'm contradicting the will, right? Because, like the call is for me to be a father. My children need me to do something that's beneficial to them. So I need to find the balance right.
Speaker 1:Okay, I can only do church for two hours, yeah you know, what I mean go serve the other, the other two of my kids. Um, and finding the balance is, like, important because a lot of people will be like, yeah, god wants me to do this, but it's gonna, like strip me from my family. Go, god wants me, wants me to do this. I'm going to go to another country and I'm going to, you know, go on missions trips and whatnot, but, like my kids are with other relatives, because now I have my wife with me out on the mission trip, and it's like, yeah, you got to think there's always a balance, like, either that or fuck, take them with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know. Yeah, I think people choose one extreme or the other, like in most cases. If there's, if it's either like two services or I need to hang out with my kids, most people wouldn't even think, okay, well, I'll do one and then I'll see my kids after they think it has to be one or the other right, it's so.
Speaker 1:It's black and white for them. There's no, yeah, there's no in between not for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, plus, I think that most people that don't find the balance also don't want to find the balance Right. You know, it's just the truth of it, like so many people hide their like own selfishness in a bunch of bullshit, but I think that the way a lot of people are living is just a simple choice that they're making. You know, yeah, like they know, they're like well, I probably could go, but I don't really feel like it, and then it's a long drive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got a full tank of gas. I'm good I can go, I should go, but like I'm just going to, you know, watch it from home, especially after COVID dude, that whole thing like went through the roof, people watching church from your house or whatever on your couch. You're just like watching tv on a screen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the christian church that I started to go to does it, uh, live every sunday. So, yeah, it's this different. Um, it's a different like kind of vibe, but do you think that, like, god has to be worshipped in a place of worship?
Speaker 1:or no? No, no, worship is also one of those umbrellas that, like, like, there's many forms of worship. Like giving and tithing is a form of worship. Praying, praising, is also one of those umbrellas that, like, there's many forms of worship. Like, giving and tithing is a form of worship. Praying, praising is a form of worship. And no, it can be from the comfort of your own home. Like communion, like, you can take communion at your house with, like a piece of bread and some grape juice, whatever.
Speaker 1:But no, that's definitely a common misconception. Like, like, I don't have to be somewhere to feel the presence of God. That's why, when, uh, you, you see a lot of churches do altar calls, right, and immediately the altars flood, I think that's awesome, presence of God, flowing, everything like that. But like, why do I feel I need to go to the altar? I don't. I need to not be led by my emotions. So if I feel prompted, I don't want to be like, oh, wow, that would feel good if I went to the altar right now. I don't want to be led like that. I want to feel like the moment where I'm like you need to go and I feel that then I go. I've been saved for about four years now I've been to the altar like three times. That's less than once a year.
Speaker 1:That's less than once a year, you know, yeah, yeah, and it's because I don't want to just be like oh yeah, yeah, come on down, we're offering forgiveness. You know, that's not how I want to operate my Christian walk, you know. I mean, I don't want to be led like that anymore. So that's deep, yeah, no, yeah, I don't. Yeah, and I'm like and I'm super picky about it too, about it too, uh, praying over people, allowing people to pray over me. I've had people pray some crazy irrelevant stuff over my life and mid-prayer. I'm like no disrespect, but please go away. Yeah, no, like dude, I had some dude come up to me. He laid hands on me. I was like I'm open, ready to receive it, and he's like, dear lord, like michael's really struggling right now, like he's watching all this nasty porn. And I'm like'm like, bro, I haven't watched porn in months, dude. And so I was like yo, please, bro, you got to stop, you got to beat it.
Speaker 1:That kind of goes into other people's oh man, it's so tough their spirituality, and where they're at and where they're in they're like I'm on fire and they start rebuking demons and trying to exorcise you, and he's probably watching porn.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:That's definitely some form of projection, like oh, I'm struggling, so bad. Dude doing cocaine. I used to do a lot of cocaine, he knows and. And bro, anytime somebody was like, I was like oh bro, they're doing cocaine too, you know like that's, so it's the exact same stuff. Yeah, it's the exact same stuff.
Speaker 2:People project.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, that's crazy. Damn, you finished that cup. Yeah, that was the rest of it. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy, bro. You want to water? I? Know right fucking hearts explode. Yeah, for your heart stop. So what do you think people should I mean, if anyone's looking to you know kind of find a path or I don't know dip into religion, right, like it's some fucking like healthcare modality?
Speaker 1:I would say anybody looking to like find something, I would say that there's many ways. There's many ways to the son of God. Right like I found him through addiction, some people might find him through anxiety, near-death experiences, yada yada.
Speaker 1:So there's many ways to the son, but from there there's only one way to God, the father, and that's through the son. So, whatever you got to dibble, dabble in, as long as it's involving Jesus, you're in the right vicinity and then you just need to know that you can only go through him to get to God. So, ultimately, anybody that's like oh, like, I'm struggling, I'm like pray, you know, see what's going on. So Paul, the apostle that wrote, like A vast majority of the New Testament, he was a, an executioner For the Romansans.
Speaker 1:Like he, he persecuted christians and executed them and uh, and where he and he wouldn't have considered himself lost at that time, he was on a path right. He was on a path ordained by his god to do what he needed to do, and it wasn't until he got blinded on his road to Damascus by Jesus and he was blind. He got blinded doing and he was like Saul Saul, why are you persecuting me? Ends up renaming him. Pretty much born again, if you would. Your new name, which is a funny thing from, uh, catholicism. That's why they give you a second middle name. Um, it's symbolizing. Symbolizing that because jesus pretty much renamed all of his posse. He was like he was like yeah, I know your name is john, I'm gonna call you mark I know your name is sol, I'm gonna call you paul.
Speaker 1:He just renamed everybody. Interesting, um, yeah, and it's, but it's, uh, but it's symbolic to again baptism burying the old and rising up with the new. That's what the. So the flood was a foreshadow right, so the whole earth was submerged in water and then got cleansed again and it was symbolizing that. Okay, so, god, we've seen what was going on. People were like looting, raping, killing each other all the time. It was. The Bible says God saw evil all the time and no good, that's what was going on. People were like looting, raping, killing each other all the time. It was. The bible says god saw evil all the time and no good, that's what was going on in the earth. So we flooded it, baptized it, brought it out, and that's where everything started back up again. Yeah, and then, uh, eventually, you know, we still couldn't get stuff right.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I. I mean, I think it's tough too, because people perceive God as this loving being that's always there, but I also feel like there's a part of it where, when the world's acting up, god might throw a meteor at it and he might be winding up right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of people think that the God of the Old Testament was so much more wrathful. Yeah, dude, you will hear people that were christians, are christians, are, want to be christians. It's, it's a common thing. You hear that all the time the god of the old testament was so much more wrathful. And then you, you read, like the gospels and whatnot, and you see where, like, all that loving and passion is. But, like, if you've read the book of revelations, like he destroys everything. Again, he's not, he hasn't mellowed out at all. Like he's, he's still, he's still the same, the same god. Um, and a lot of that comes from jealousy. So, like that's one of god's uh, uh, I don't I don't want to call it an attribute, but more or less, uh, he's described, and he's described himself, as a jealous god. When we're worshiping idols and all this stuff like that, it sparks this jealousy and uh, and that's where a lot of this is going to come into.
Speaker 2:Like well, if we're made in his image, I guess to a degree, you know, we might have some of his attributes.
Speaker 1:Yeah oh yeah everyone feels jealousy yeah, no, no, yeah, well for sure, all the time. Yeah, no, the scripture actually says our God, whose name is jealous, is a jealous God. It almost says it's his name, more or less. And yeah, it's Old Testament, yeah, it was in Exodus. I believe Our God, whose name is jealous, is a jealous God and it's talking about, like, what's going on at that time. You know what I mean. Like he's, he's, he's bringing these commandments and all this stuff going on at that time. You know what I mean. Like he's, he's, he's bringing these commandments and all this stuff. And he comes down from, uh, moses comes down from the mountain and they're all like having orgies, like banging, worshiping the gold calf and all this stuff, and it's uh, it's nuts, damn, yeah, no, he's, he's, uh, he's a jealous god, dude. And that's why, uh, come, come judgment day anyone who's not, I mean, and we, let me take jealousy to the next level and we see that anyone's not following. Yeah, it's pretty much asked out.
Speaker 2:I think for me, um, as far as like judgment day and eternity goes, it's not even the aspect of like heaven and hell that freaked me out, it's the aspect of eternity, right, right, because even if I'm in heaven forever, that to me feels like hell for some reason.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a long time. It's a long time. So you've got to think right. Okay, so there's a heaven and there's a hell. Let's say that's what you believe 100%. What would make you want to go to either one? Okay, hell sounds like a good place, I want to go there. What would make you want to go there? Let's say heaven's your destination, you want to be there. What would make you want to be in heaven?
Speaker 1:yeah, following jesus and right, like why do you so? And that's a common misconception for christians like, oh, I want to go to heaven because, like, I'll see my like family and I'll see my loved ones and I'll see all the people that died, and I don't think it's stuff like that that is keeping you in a good place. Because I want to go to heaven, because that's where Christ is, that's where Jesus is, like he came down from heaven, stepped off, died, rose again and went back up there. And if I'm following him my whole life, I don't want to go to heaven because my dead relatives are there or all the dogs that I ever loved or are dead and up in heaven.
Speaker 1:I want to go to heaven because that's where the man I was just following my entire life is. Now you know what I mean and, uh, I'm not saying that you know, being slightly confused about that aspect, that that one little part um is going to prevent your access, but I think that's a definitely a better mentality to establish if you're a Christian in the faith and you're telling yourself I want to go to heaven because you know all this and all that.
Speaker 1:No, like the Bible says, it's going to be nonstop worship. That's the other thing. So, like damn, not only am I going to be there for the rest of my eternity, I'm going to be kind of like on my knees the whole time. You know, like that's a tough concept. Like I'm going to be, you know what I mean I'm going to be worshiping the same guy that I was worshiping here on earth, except it's going to be nonstop in heaven, Forever. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that the appealing part too about Christianity is that, like in moments where you talk to Jesus, it almost feels like a brotherhood, it's like this dude really put himself on the cross for me. Yeah, you know, I feel like there's such not even like a relatability, because I mean no one's, you know, no one's on that level, but there really is this like comfort that he really just did everything he possibly could for us. You know. So when you're like kind of talking to someone, it's like damn like it just feels like a brotherhood, almost Like he really had my back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 1:It is. No, it is definitely a brotherhood. That's one way to put it. A lot of people that are part of whatever church they're part of, they're like it's all. They have some people and they consider it more of a family.
Speaker 1:You know, what I mean. You can say brotherhood, you can say family, whatever floats your boat in that matter, but it's the connection that makes everything real. Like I can't, I don't feel as much intimacy, and some people are vice versa. But like if I, if I were just to go to church, let's say, and I was alone in the whole congregation, it was just me and the pastor, versus I go to church and it's me in a congregation full of people. Now I'm seeing like evidence. I'm seeing people with their hands in the air, I'm seeing people praising, praying, all this stuff, and I'm like like this all feels real, tangible, right now. And then sometimes I'm just like if I'm zoned in, and sometimes I do feel like I'm the only person in the room and I like, and I'm like struggling to like, I'm struggling to focus, like I'm getting distracted. I'm thinking about what I ate for breakfast.
Speaker 1:It's giving me heartburn and all this stuff like I'm thinking about that, but then I there's other people in the room and I'm like, I'm like okay, like look around, I look around, like this is real, like this dude was just smoking crack three weeks ago and he's at church right now. Like he's not OD'd. You know what I mean Seeing stuff like that. It's just real, it's tangible you know, yeah, that's surreal.
Speaker 2:All right, we back, we back with some extra too.
Speaker 1:Where'd your little cap go?
Speaker 2:That's a great question. Don't fucking know, girls, I need my cap. Oh wait, they're not fucking here.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's what it was. It's the, the year of the dragon.
Speaker 2:So this podcast is Brought to you by howell smokes bang a bunch of different products. You know, the original goal when we created this was I would talk to a lot of people that were either trying to get off cigarettes or they were trying to stop smoking weed and, um, I remember, uh, when I was going through a time in my life where I mean, yeah, I just like smoking on something there's, there's just something about it, you know. So I um, and I was going through some anxiety and some like sleep problems. So for me it was like, let me find something that I'm not gonna trip balls on right you know, um and uh.
Speaker 2:I like that's when cbd was kind of making its making its rounds yeah, it's wave. So I started smoking it and I mean my recovery in the gym was better right, I was sleeping better. When you smoke it like when you smoke weed, dude, it's like when you smoke CBD you feel so linear and content. And then when I went further into the research, it shows that it helps with addiction Like it helps with hangovers. It can help're like it helps with like hangovers. It can help with a nicotine addiction, with an alcohol addiction. So anytime like you want to smoke a cigarette, smoke some CBD. Anytime you want to smoke some actual weed, smoke some CBD. Yeah, you know, and for a lot of people, weed makes people so fucking lazy Like it used to make me lazy I used to eat like dog shit.
Speaker 1:That or paranoid, especially if you're a new smoker.
Speaker 2:Yeah, true.
Speaker 1:Like it can be legal as shit and you're like I'm fucking always watching over your shoulder. So a lot of the medicinal properties of marijuana are still found in CBD.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're just not getting fucking banned.
Speaker 1:The majority of the medicinal is in the CBD. So if someone's claiming that they smoke marijuana to relieve pain?
Speaker 2:like back. It's not coming from the THC, right, it's coming from other things. I think it does to a degree, but I think there's just more of the aspect that they're feeling high which is making them feel less pain.
Speaker 1:Exactly Same concept of like I got a cut on this hand, but I feel it less when I pinch myself on this arm.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Same thing. So now I'm feeling something, so I'm feeling less of something else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's an aspect of like. There's a reason why there's not like THC creams.
Speaker 2:It's all CBDd, everything you know, right, yeah like or hemp, and our body has has cbd receptors, yeah, like inside of it, so to a degree it is meant to bind with. You know, I would love to come out with like a cigar that'd be fucking ideal and uh, make a cigar with like tobacco mixed with cbd. The issue is that the research is a little mixed on it, where as far as like them binding to the same receptor and they might fight for it. So, yeah, it might be either a really good effect or like no effect at all well with with uh if you're smoking cbd and thc at the same time.
Speaker 2:That's what happens right? Cbd removes the thc and it can sober you up actually from thc. That's crazy yeah, every time I'm too drunk. If I smoke cbd I feel better, and anytime I've ever been too hot, yo me and my it's almost like narcan, but for yeah, bro, but for we bro, me and my girl, probably a year ago.
Speaker 2:Um, we're on this like a few day thing of like smoking weed out just fucking randomly, which really, yeah, I'm not proud of because it, bro, like it makes me fucking lazy, uh, yeah you the most recent, okay, yeah and um. When was that?
Speaker 1:like a year ago.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, okay, okay bro, I got so fucking high that, like you, feel like your world is collapsing. You're like yo, my heart's going to stop. I got to go to the hospital. I can't call the cops because they're going to fucking know I'm high. Yeah, the only thing that, dude. I drove to the liquor store, I bought a bottle of wine. I chugged it. I was still high. The only thing that saved me was I was like CBD. I was like CBD.
Speaker 1:I was like I own a fucking CBD company.
Speaker 2:Like I smoke CBD and I finally came down from it. Really, oh man, it was crazy. It was so fucking uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, the tolerance thing is crazy Right now. No matter, like like I don't know, just because of the shit that I've done, I don't think there's like a of like.
Speaker 1:I mean, if I know I probably could have a bad weed trip if I went a long, long time without smoking, but like but like, when you compare like the marijuana high to like the drugs I was doing, you almost like that's why, like, like people who try to do the they call it marijuana maintenance program, like I'm gonna get, I'm gonna stop drinking, I'm gonna stop doing cocaine, I'm going to stop drinking. I'm going to stop doing cocaine. I'm going to stop tripping balls, all that stuff, but I'm going to smoke some weed. Like it's like not, yeah, it's not enough. Sometimes, like I remember, like trying to get sober, sit back smoking weed and I'm like, damn, like I wish I was more fucked up than this, like I'm just sitting there I'm like, wow, I need to be more fucked up than this.
Speaker 1:I'm not fucked up enough. You know what? I mean that's something that people you might be struggling at that.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, unless that's the goal.
Speaker 1:If your goal is to get fucked up, then that's great. But if you're just chilling, hanging out, having a good time, you're like, oh, I'm not fucked up enough. Out and having a good time, you're like, oh, I'm not fucked up enough, like that's a tough place. You know what I mean. So, but if that's the goal, that's the goal.
Speaker 2:Like, yeah, get fucked up, but yeah man just trying to chill and like do nothing yeah, yeah, for me, like man, smoking on something just feels it's just enjoyable to me. Yeah, you know like, and there's a degree that I know it's unhealthy but also, if you're looking for a quick fix in anxiety you're about to go on stage or anything, this will get by smoking something. It'll get to your bloodstream that much faster. You'll feel instantaneous effects.
Speaker 1:Do they make carts For CBD? Do they make carts like the Cali Gold?
Speaker 2:Remember all that stuff Smart Probably. Smart pens Probably.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, that'd be kind of cool bro.
Speaker 2:I feel like I'm getting this fucking ash Everywhere besides the ash. So, yo, what have you tried? That is on some other shit. Have you tried any hallucinogenics? Yeah, like is on some other shit. Like, have you tried any like?
Speaker 1:hallucinogenics, yeah, yeah, have you had experiences with that? Yeah, yeah, hallucinogenics don't really like, aren't, aren't out what's like other people make them to be. You know what I mean? Like, uh, you will. There's definitely waves and spectrums and all that stuff. So I've done it all. I mean I've done, um, I've smoked dmt, um, I've done lsd, uh, psilocybin mushrooms what was the?
Speaker 2:was the DMT like?
Speaker 1:So the DMT is the most as far as research goes. I don't know where it aligns with, but as far as DMT is the most like, natural, like I'm pretty sure it's derived from plants, certain plants, it's something that's going on inside plants, but your body already has a little bit of DMT.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you sleep it.
Speaker 1:It's the chemical that helps you produce your dreams, isn't it? Yeah, so the most naturally occurring already in the body, the most naturally occurring in the world and coming out of the earth, whatever the case may be. But in that, what it makes you experience is what's crazy. I should just put this whole thing in there. Huh, yeah, um, what it makes you experience, in alignment with that, is what people question about, like, oh, is there aliens? Is there this shit? Is there that shit? Um, so the thing about smoking dmt is. So the first time I did it, I went to the store I bought a brand new bong and I was like yo, I don't want no weed up in here or nothing, I want to make sure I'm getting pure DMT. So I bought a brand new bong. I took a hit from the house in Connecticut. I took a hit, and so that's the mistake First number one. You shouldn't be doing it alone. You're supposed to be doing it with somebody else.
Speaker 1:A fucking, shaman, a fucking, and they're actually supposed to coach you potentially into a second hit if you didn't get a good enough first hit, and that's what makes you experience your trip. So I took a hit and I ran out the crib and I ran with the bong in my hand and I ran to the water and I hummed that shit Like yeah, shit, like like yeah, uh. And then I ran back up the hill and back into the crib and I was like, all right, I'm good, uh. So I fucked up second time. Um, I did it by myself again, but as soon as I blew out, I just I, I went again and uh, yeah, I fell back in in the bed in the blue room, um, and I was seeing I've seen this like obelisk, like type figure dude. It was weird as far as like spiritual, like I don't know, I mean shit nowadays, I'd say more demonic than anything. You know what I mean, because I don't really like, currently I don't believe what I saw then, like in a positive way, in a negative way.
Speaker 2:Sure, like yeah, like I don't know, it was a premonition of hell is how I would see it now but then it's like but back then, like not knowing about Christianity, I'm like I love when you say like obelisk, like all the people that have played Yu-Gi-Oh.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Watch Yu-Gi-Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Like you know what the motherfucking obelisk is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's actually also a terminology for stone Like. It's also a terminology for stone um, like, uh, like like geode type type structure. You know what I mean tall, black, uh, opaque stuff like that, um. But yeah, so dmt was definitely the most that I like seen stuff on. And then shrooms and lsd is like. Lsd is more like slightly impaired shrooms will make you like hallucinate you're you're getting food poisoning is what you're doing? You're giving yourself food poisoning when you eat psilocybin. So I've definitely hallucinated off shrooms. But LSD has always been more just like wavy and whatnot. But either way, it's not real. You know what I mean. You have to do something to feel that you know what I mean. You have to do something to feel that you know what.
Speaker 2:I mean, well, I know there are certain meditative states that can give people similar effects to DMT and they can produce DMT in their brain from certain meditative states. Yeah, that's always interesting, yeah, that's wild, it's crazy. Yeah, no, I've heard of that. So you think that this, being that you saw when you were on dmt, was kind of fake, or are you afraid that it might have been real?
Speaker 1:no, I think it was a different dimension?
Speaker 2:because we don't. I think it's been proven that, like, our eyes only see five percent of the actual spectrums and dimensions that are around us. Yeah, so is there a degree where you're like yeah, I think, I think.
Speaker 1:I think it could have been real or it could have just been the fact that, like, I have a human brain that wasn't meant to be on something and I experienced that something, you know, uh, but no, it very well could have been real, but as far as, like, how you define real, like for me and what I believe in, like, yeah, it could have been real, but it would. It wasn't before it, like before before christ, it was more of an experimental curiosity. Like I think this might be another being from another dimension makes me want to look up at the sky at nighttime and look at the stars and shit, yeah, but now it's like it's the exact opposite. I'm like you're like that was like, that's like that's of the devil. It's like not to sound like you know bob bobby boucher's mom, but that's the devil.
Speaker 2:But I feel like a lot of people that could potentially be like an atheist or a non-believer could do something like ayahuasca or dmt and then become spiritual afterwards and have a yeah, and you see that.
Speaker 1:Uh, you see that often in like people that even smoke weed or have a near-death experience, like they had a seizure or something like that, and it's like, and I just Was that me or you? I think it was. I think it was yeah, it must have been you. No, yeah, it must have been you. Hulu yeah right, I don't even know where mine is. Is it you? What happened?
Speaker 2:Oh, nothing, what's good, bro, idiots, idiots, you bolted fire. Nah, I had them up earlier saying I was having an emergency podcast and they just sent me a video of them. So they're in the same dorm room and they were like having an emergency podcast and they just sent me a video of them. So they're in the same dorm room and they were like we're in bed and she was like she sent me a video. Oh, that's funny, idiots, you both are funny. What at college?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's funny. It's too fucking funny. So I've been sitting here just fucking struggling on my own Like If they could have been fucking packing this shit for us like the whole nine. So like I want another one now, you know yeah.
Speaker 1:They're so fire, but yeah, so, as far as those drugs which is funny because they're the least addictive, like ones that are like making you see stuff- Like as far as DMT mushrooms, yeah, DMT actually is the fastest dissolving drug in the yeah, and you can't test you sober up, so fucking quick from it.
Speaker 2:They say yeah, like you'll be high one second and the next you're just yeah it's pretty out of it, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:What's crazy is that its remnants in your body disappear very, very, very, very fast, but they stay in your brain for a lot longer. Is LSD Interesting? I heard traces of all LSD in like every way except from a spinal tap. Disappear within two hours of your dude. Crazy thing about LSD.
Speaker 1:If you've ever done LSD at any point in your life, ever you can't join the Air Force because when they do a spinal tap and they can see, but there's a reason because at a certain altitude, lsd is actually stored in your spinal column and at a certain altitude it can release and you can start tripping while you're flying a plane. So, that's why you can't. They can do a spinal tap and they can find out you did like cocaine and you did all this other stuff and they don't really give a fuck Yo people been like microdosing LSD and shit like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they say so. The psilocybin from mushrooms, they say, is actually an anxiety and depression reset, like it's almost like you're born again into this, like new X, y or Z type shit. Oh, I just got confused.
Speaker 2:It happens.
Speaker 1:But, again.
Speaker 2:That's not my phone, that's actually Buzzing. That's you, big dog.
Speaker 1:Yeah, got to handle something.
Speaker 2:It happens, Brody.
Speaker 1:It's good, though that's not even the phone that was going off either. That was over there.
Speaker 2:Brody, he has risen. On the third day he rose again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, yo that's crazy, so uh.
Speaker 2:It's good.
Speaker 1:Alright, so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, alright, I feel you, so you know what the Sabbath is right, yeah, Alright Feel you.
Speaker 1:So you know what the Sabbath is right. Do you know what day the Sabbath is?
Speaker 2:Sunday. A lot of people would think so.
Speaker 1:A lot of people would think right, but it's actually Saturday. Right, sunday was the day he rose again, so he gets executed on Friday.
Speaker 2:Damn bro, Saturday Right Um.
Speaker 1:Sunday was the day he rose again.
Speaker 2:So, uh, so he, he gets executed on Friday. Damn bro, like you, just what. You'd be saying some shit. You'd be saying some shit like that, just just so nonchalantly. Oh, yeah, like even earlier today you were like, yeah, yeah, she bought the croak.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, no, that was a little raw. Though that was a little raw.
Speaker 2:So yeah, he got marked on a Friday.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, he did yeah so he got yoked up on Friday and then Saturday he's dead and he rises on Sunday. So he spends three days dead. So biblically, friday from sundown till Saturday, sundown is the Sabbath. So really you view that as the entirety of Saturday, because it was nighttime on Friday. Now you're spending Saturday morning into Saturday night. So sundown Friday till sundown Saturday is the Sabbath. He died on Friday, he was dead Saturday and he rose on Sunday. So yes, he was dead all three of those days, but the only 24-hour day. And you know what Sabbath you're supposed to do, right? You're supposed to rest, you're not supposed to work, yeah.
Speaker 1:So some people, your Sabbath might be Tuesday, some people it's Sunday, some people it's Saturday. The only now hear this right, the only full 24-hour period that he was actually dead was saturday, and it was the sabbath and he rested. He was just dead the whole time. He he literally did nothing. He followed his own, he followed his own teaching, he followed his own instruction, which is crazy. And, uh yeah, he died on friday. He rested all, all the whole time on saturday and then rose again on sunday, damn um. So a lot of people think too, like all right, so where did Jesus go when he died? Where do you think he went? Or do you think he just died? I?
Speaker 2:think he would have just been sleeping with one eye open.
Speaker 1:Like he never actually fully you know. I feel like, Well, he had to fully die.
Speaker 2:That's the thing I feel like part of him was dead, but he was also like you know. He was still peaking a little bit he was still peaking.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, he's omnipresent. If Jesus is God incarnate and in the flesh, then he's also God. He's 100% man. He's 100% God. But because he was 100% man, he did fully die. Okay, but okay. So let's say right, he comes from heaven down to earth and then dies. Does he go back up to heaven while he's dead and then three days later come back down, Only to go back up again? Because later he goes back up?
Speaker 2:I feel like he went to Six Flags or something. No, I don't know.
Speaker 1:He went to hell. Damn, he went to hell. Do you know why he went to hell? Because the moment he died, he bore all of our sin on the cross, and that's what sent him to hell was all of our sin, and that's where all of our sin would take us if we don't accept him right. So he bears all of our sin. He says it on the cross my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? It wasn't that God wasn't there. It's that God takes no part in sin. God and sin are two separate things. They're never in the same room together per se, if that analogy helps you. So, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? He says it in another language. The translation of it sounds a little repetitive. But so he takes all of our sin, he dies and he goes to hell. And what does he do while he's there?
Speaker 1:Revelations, I believe it's 2.12, says that uh behold, I have risen and I have the keys of uh death in Hades. So he went into hell and he took the keys. And then he rolls back up again. So the reason why and you think about it too you think about like if you were to draw a diagram so okay, so Jesus comes, he dies on earth, he goes back up to heaven, and then he comes down again three days later just to go. And then he was with the disciples for uh, 30 days, or 60, 90 days before he, uh, before he went back up, again 40 I'm sorry, 40 days. He was with uh. He was with his disciples for 40 days before he rose back up into heaven and, uh, it would make no sense, it'd be too much of this, so, but it's a full cycle.
Speaker 1:See, he comes from heaven, he steps off the throne is what he does. He's god, jesus is god same thing 100 man, 100 god. So he steps off the throne, comes down to earth, uh, 33 years later he dies, goes down to hell, comes back up 40 days later, goes back up to heaven. So it's, it's like this rather than this yeah, so, uh, that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. So, uh, yeah. Revelations 2 12 talks about uh, he has the keys to death in haiti. So he went down and took the keys. Imagine like demons in hell, like you see, like this, like it's little nicky is is little nicky going on in there. There's a spiral staircase, that's going on little nicky, that movie's goaded.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um and yo coming down the staircase, is this crazy light, like that's got it, that's like a hell, like that would make a crazy like play or like a movie scene. Dude, like like him actually going in there and just like like body and saying out of the paint, grabbing the keys and coming back up and saying if we're made in his image to a degree, do you think there is an aspect of us that could also rise out of hell?
Speaker 1:So we're made in his image physically, but spiritually we're not one with him. You know what I mean. He's our creator. We don't really. We're not like that, I feel like there's a relation, you're there for eternity is what I'm trying to say. If you do get sent to hell. You should have a look. There's no escaping.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I want to believe that there's an aspect or a realization that you can have in hell that could maybe make you ascend up.
Speaker 1:I think that's the point of hell. You are there and you are realizing it, but it's not going to change anything.
Speaker 2:Damn.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That feels like Earth sometimes. Yeah, you know, Like if you're really stuck in some shit that really feels like Earth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're not getting out of it. Yeah, you're stuck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're like yo.
Speaker 1:I know the other way but I just can't do better right now. Yeah, yeah, that's fucking crazy. Yeah, uh, there was a uh, a vision they were giving a parable in the new testament and it was uh, somebody was. It was somebody in, uh, in hell having a conversation with somebody in heaven, uh, through like a middleman, and uh, in the end, uh, and in the parable or the analogy, he was saying, like, like, tell people, like tell all my friends and all my family that like hell is real and don't, and they need to, and and they're like it's too late you can't, you, can't tell anybody anything anymore.
Speaker 1:Like you, we like, we have a chance right now in our life to like like I, I definitely want my kids to follow this. You know what I mean, and let's say you're a skeptic. You know whatever well, worse comes to worse. Then they die, just like the rest of us. Okay, then we die. But like I'd rather of them have like, known this, followed this, like I'm glad they didn't get baptized, and I don't think it's a, I don't think they would. You're not gonna go to hell for it, but like I'm glad they didn't. I'm glad they didn't get baptized. And then, and in like 10 years, when they start to realize the significance of burying the current, who knows what kind of path they're gonna go down yeah you know I mean, but we all struggle with some form of sin that we have to bury anyway.
Speaker 1:So who knows what kind of path they're gonna go down? But at some point they're gonna realize that like I want to put behind this old life and take on this new yeah, this new um that's deep, yeah, yeah, I think that, to a degree, human beings are, I don't know, like intrinsically programmed to want to believe in something yeah and when you have nothing to believe in your life is pretty much utter fucking chaos yeah, and that's that, and I, and I definitely think that that's god, and what people do with it is where we go wrong.
Speaker 1:Like that natural curiosity is instilled in us. Dude, it takes more faith to believe the possibility that there is no God than to accept the possibility that there is one. You know what I mean. Like, you know how, like you think about creation as a whole, like everything, the way we breathe air that the trees just produce and then we breathe out, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:You know whatever they need. Like it's dude, it's so, it's made perfect. Like if our, if our earth, if the earth was like a mile closer to the sun, yeah, we'd be fucked. If it was a mile further, we'd be fucked. Like we're in the goldilocks zone and stuff. Like that is just is. Is it literally? It takes more faith to say like there is no god than than to accept the possibility that there is one. Yeah, like when you think about all the stuff that's just like, that's just placed so perfectly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean even look at like our bodies when we cut. We heal Right, Fucking digestion, yeah, what?
Speaker 1:the fuck. Yeah, exactly, you know. Yeah, it's all too. Yeah, it's too perfect. And then, like I remember trying to explain this to somebody one time, they got me tight. I was explaining about how perfect creation is. They're like I take a shit and it smells that's not perfect. I was. I was like damn, like yeah, yeah, you kind of got me, but like, yeah, it is it's still, it's still, it's still perfect.
Speaker 1:Like that's that's. That's the beauty, that's the beauty of shit. Like the fuck, that's crazy. Like if you didn't do that you know what I mean you couldn't live. Like that's beautiful.
Speaker 2:A prime example. Right Like bro, shit smells, but fucking, but fucking.
Speaker 1:I did think about that. Yeah, it's hilarious.
Speaker 2:But I remember I was chilling with Paul and he had a viral infection and he lost his sense of smell and we were in front of a garbage truck. I was like bro, that shit stinks. And he looked at me and he got teary-eyed and he was like bro, I wish I could smell it. But like it was so true, it's like that goes to like, even though it smelled like shit to me, he hadn't smelled anything in literally months and he wished he could smell it. And he was like I wish I could smell that shit. I wish I could smell that shit. So it's like there it really. It really depends on your perspective of it because, like back to your point of shit being beautiful smelling.
Speaker 1:You know it's like like it really is.
Speaker 2:Just yeah, I just think if people become so jaded by existence and like the normal, like monotony of getting up brushing your teeth, taking a shit, oh it stinks. Let me spray like there's so much beauty in everything around us and then, and in such simple moments, and we just fall short of appreciating that, you know yeah, yeah, it's too like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, creation as a whole is just too.
Speaker 2:It's way too complex yeah, for us to comprehend.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, to think that it all just like, like. I do think that there was a a point where the universe exploded into existence yeah but I just cracked my jaw. She was probably mad louder, but I believe it was him that exploded it.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean I think I think there, I think those can see the interesting thing about science is it's kind of like it's always been a little bit behind, it's just catching up to what god has already done is it's kind of like it's always been a little bit behind, it's just catching up to what God has already done? And it's really that's how I define science it's the study of what God has already done and we're just kind of catching up and realizing it, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, this shit's so wild. I could go on and on about God space. Yeah, it's crazy. Do you believe that the earth is flat or round it's round? Yeah, it's round, do you?
Speaker 1:believe that, I don't know, flat things can't exist in space. Because they can't, you know, because flat things can't orbit. That's how space works. Like we like, we orbit around the sun, and if we flat, we couldn't orbit around the sun.
Speaker 2:Well, let's say that the sun's fake too. Like you see these, like pictures that like come out where, like it shows like the fucking spotlights inside of the sun and shit, yeah. Or like what's another one? Or that, like we ever went to the moon, you ever went to the moon?
Speaker 1:It's possible that we didn't go when they said we did, but eventually we did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, there's definitely like an aspect of.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I definitely think it's possible that maybe not the moon landing or I think some moon landings were definitely fake, but there are currently. There are real ones. I mean that's yeah, we're on the moon right now. You know what I mean? I mean shit. We're on fucking Mars right now. You know what I mean? Like that's a fact, like Elon ain't lying.
Speaker 2:You know what's going on? Nah, he's a G. Nah, yeah, yeah, he's keeping it real.
Speaker 1:Nah, he's a fucking G. Yeah, so if we're on Mars, we're on the fucking moon. It's a lot closer.
Speaker 2:Well, we're not on Mars. There's robots on Mars.
Speaker 1:Right, I mean humans in general.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, like we've physically achieved Stuff we control, yes, is on Mars.
Speaker 1:No, not yet. Not on Mars yet. That'll be crazy dude.
Speaker 2:Bro, what are you having? An adenosine rush.
Speaker 1:Me right now. Yeah, oh, feeling tired, no, I, just I honestly do. I. I get a very satisfying feeling from yawning. It's almost like a relief, it's an itch I'm scratching.
Speaker 2:I knew that the peak of a yawn feels so good.
Speaker 1:It's weird, Sometimes I intentionally start a yawn and I don't get a full yawn. I'm like, damn, I wish that shit was a full yawn interesting.
Speaker 2:You know, yawning is just your body telling you that there's not enough oxygen in your brain and it's just trying to force air in really yeah, that's crazy, so I'm just not getting you probably got a fucking deviated septum or something.
Speaker 1:That's crazy, doesn't that just mean broken nose?
Speaker 2:I got a deviated septum, bro. It's bad, like this nostril. I don't breathe on it. Really, it's only this side.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. Yeah, wow, that never even happened to me after all the cocaine.
Speaker 2:I did yeah, bro it sucks.
Speaker 1:Oh man, it's tough Bro. I remember one time being on it for so long when you had all the issues, because I remember this Like you. Like I remember you using, like, the neti pot. You went through a little phase of that, like you always had stuff going on in your nose, and I remember when I was getting high.
Speaker 2:I'm like damn. It had nothing to do with behavior, it was just like it was just what you had going on and I was like, yeah, I'm glad I never said nothing, yeah, all right. What the fuck are you talking about, bro? This shit's crazy fucking hell. This has been dope, though, bro. Yeah, for sure, bro, just getting a chop it up. I should have just went live with it. I think I'm gonna start going live fuck it.
Speaker 1:I mean it'd definitely be a little more noticeable.
Speaker 2:I mean as far as like, like emotionally, for like the people and me and us yeah, I think we, the people, yeah, I think that, yeah, yeah, I don't know bro, I think I think that it's just like I'm all about, just like raw authenticity, and I just feel like going live is just how to do it. Yeah, bro, you just fucking shoot it. People tune in, they see, like they see all the fucking smoke break. Fuck it, yeah right. Yeah, like they got to wait 10 minutes you know, it's like it just is what it is.
Speaker 2:It just is what it is. Some might tune off, but then it's just yeah, it's out there. No, that's true. Yeah, I just think it's probably fair. That goes into not wanting to do it. You're like oh, what if I say some dumb shit?
Speaker 1:I can't fucking Right, I can't take back. I ruined my career before it started.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that I might just start shooting my shit. Fucking live, bro, fuck it.
Speaker 1:That just seems like the best fucking route, wait.
Speaker 2:So if yawning is giving your brain more oxygen, why is it contagious? There's a social aspect of it, I don't know, like in psychology, like your brain sees someone else doing it and feels left out. Basically, it's fucking brain's bitch made bro.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. So it's like a. It's like an. It's like an instinctual form of peer pressure. Yeah, wow, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:Right, it's just built in, yeah I see, so I'm doing it.
Speaker 1:Wow, yeah, well, that that's how addiction be too, if you're, if you're a cigarette smoker, you see somebody else smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 2:You're like oh, yeah, time to light up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you do Wow.
Speaker 2:All right, man we off.
