Howl The Truth

HowlLive Ep 3. Smorgasbord With Rudy Beaubrun

The HowlCast Season 1 Episode 7

In this captivating episode, Rudy, our guest, reflects on past podcast ventures filled with technical mishaps and genuine conversations, which have strengthened our friendship that traces back to middle school. We delve into personal stories tackling racism, heartbreak, and the joys and trials of parenting, sharing candid reflections on our enduring bonds despite life's changes. Our discussions traverse a spectrum of topics, from afterlife beliefs and relationship dynamics to financial intricacies, filled with humor and heartfelt exchanges that reveal life's unspoken truths. The episode turns nostalgic as we reminisce about iconic 90s TV shows and the early tech era, diving into playful hypotheticals about truth versus deception, dating complexities with children, and the nuances of nepotism in sports. Our journey blends light-hearted and profound moments, underscoring a shared appreciation for genuine connections amidst laughter and insightful dialogue.

Speaker 2:

always water ski do you think water has like a different taste?

Speaker 3:

oh, yeah, I could tell why I could tell water bro, it's so different. Give me me Dasani, aquafina, aquafina, aquafina, aquafina. Bro, I'm throwing both those waters, bro.

Speaker 2:

Dasani has gotten sued a couple of times because they were using tap water or some shit like that. It tastes like tap water. Bro Dasani, aquafina Strath. The only mild one that I'll drink is Poland Spring. Oh, yeah, yeah I don't mind Poland Spring and then if it's Persian, I'll do like Fiji or some Evian or something like that.

Speaker 3:

I'd rather die of dehydration before I touch a bottle.

Speaker 2:

Bro, one time I was at Paul's house after a night of drinking and I saw him turn his sink on, put it in a cup and start drinking it. I was like you did not just do that.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I would drink any water besides Dasani, I would drink anything. I'd drink water from a hose, not a hose, an iron.

Speaker 2:

Damn, you would drink sink water over Dasani.

Speaker 3:

Well, I guess it's the same thing Exactly 100% Before I touch that blue and green bottle. That's hilarious.

Speaker 2:

All right To everyone that's here. Welcome back to another episode. I don't even know if this is episode like three or four. I was supposed to shoot in new orleans, but I had the voodoo got me yeah, the voodoo got me, if they fuck with my technology I couldn't aikido it out of existence, so but yeah, I think it's like four or five.

Speaker 2:

I've been shooting with shaley. Um, I've known rudy for uh, quite some time. We can get into that. But uh, yeah, I'm always trying to like keep things new and and have people on and try to um, expand like the content that goes out, and every time I text rudy about it he's like yeah, let me know. And then, coincidentally, uh, rudy and I also shot a podcast and for and for two hours I couldn't get my audio to work, so we used our phones and the audio just isn't, um, it isn't feasible to use for a podcast. I tried to use like ai and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

So it was still a great podcast bro, yeah, conversation like it was it was good conversation, like even just like for us as men to just like catch up and just kick it and talk, and for me, I think that's why I like shooting these, because I never leave in a bad mood and I always feel like I learned something, even about myself after I left. You put yourself in front of a camera and you start talking and you go home and you're like I don't know why the fuck I said that, but that was some real ass shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the conversation got real deep, it got real deep.

Speaker 3:

It was good, so it was good. I just want to apologize to everyone because I'm not as attractive as Shaylee, but I'll still give you some good talks this week.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, that's great. And I also have my assistant Mackenzie here. We were going to put her on camera but we just couldn't figure out the logistics and then being stuck in the middle of us. But she does have a microphone that I that I gave to her.

Speaker 4:

Well see, if you can see if she can plug it in and, oh yeah, we're gonna hit it every time. Hello, no, do the other side on the x? Oh no, it is the side yeah, x marks what up?

Speaker 2:

all right, so, uh, we're just kind of gonna uh gauge this uh kind of how we have been. Uh, now that I have mckenzie here, I can have her ask us some questions and stuff. Uh, me and rudy will probably extrapolate on the questions and probably go off on a tangent here and there, but it's all good though. Uh, we'll do our best. So I'm gonna have mckenzie take the ball.

Speaker 2:

So if you hear like a random voice, um in the background, it's not a ghost or anything like that, it's just it's just our, our guidance yeah it's just our north star yeah, uh, yeah, yeah, north star, all right, matt, yeah, yeah, you can come back on and then you can just leave it plugged in too, and then we'll see if it. Yeah, because if not, we'll, we'll probably get that every time. Are you talking to the ex?

Speaker 4:

yeah, I am oh, oh, there she is all right what's the first?

Speaker 2:

question, okay, oh wait, hold on. I'm so sorry to interrupt you. I never do that, right, okay? Um, when rudy and I shot a podcast, I bought us a bottle of class a azul and uh, I remember hitting him up and he's like, why the fuck are you buying that? And if and it really is just out of like like gratification and appreciation for the people around me um, and I knew like he wouldn't expect it, he was like, bro, grab a $20 bottle. And I was just like, yeah, so anyways, uh, I feel like that's cursed, you know, yeah, and I was gonna get like another bottle. So instead, you know I I got us a bottle of night of 1942 done. I said 1972 on my last podcast. I sound like a fucking idiot, but I will say I've never had this before it's smooth, it's good stuff, yeah, yeah it's better than the class yeah, but they're.

Speaker 3:

They're like on the similar tier, like there's. There's a bunch of other tequilas that are out there that don't have a biggest name, that are better than that, but it's a great tequila.

Speaker 2:

Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, it's a great tequila Damn. I'm going to have you do the honors.

Speaker 3:

No, off the clock, we're still on it yeah right. All right, let's get Bro.

Speaker 2:

If that was me, it'd be like 10 minutes later.

Speaker 3:

I'd still be looking. Before we even get into it, bless it A little spank. A little spank, you know.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

Can't have any bad juju on this one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I don't want that yeah go ahead, wash that down. I don't want no interference.

Speaker 3:

I don't want no water interference. It's going to be smooth, brother. That that's one thing about it. You'll catch a little vanilla notes at the end.

Speaker 2:

Damn Okay.

Speaker 3:

I mean, this is what I do for a living, yeah right Cheers mate. Cheers brother.

Speaker 2:

Appreciate you being here.

Speaker 3:

Thank you so much Pleasure having you.

Speaker 2:

I'm once again sorry, mckenzie, for cutting you off. You're fine. Are you going to try it? Ooh, it is different.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, gonna try it. Oh, it is, it is different. Yeah, so like, just like, just like class, it still has that little smooth vanilla note at the end is that mama?

Speaker 4:

it's not, it's mama it's tradition, tradition she's flipping you off too now I didn't do that.

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't do that to you, alright, love you, I'll text you Okay. Alright.

Speaker 4:

Are you ready for me?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let's, let's get into it.

Speaker 4:

You know, let's do it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, got you Ready.

Speaker 4:

Okay, how did you guys meet? I actually don't know this.

Speaker 3:

Do you want me to lead or do you want to take this?

Speaker 2:

one. No, you can lead. And then, yeah, why don't you say it from your perspective?

Speaker 3:

and then, I'll go with mine. So originally I was born in Jersey. I ended up moving to Rhode Island when I was in sixth grade yeah, sixth grade. I moved to Pawtucket and then after that I moved to Warwick and I went to Aldridge and my first day I dreaded it. I didn't know anyone, I didn't want to go into it and Pat was honestly the first kid I met.

Speaker 3:

When I went to Aldridge and me, growing up in New Jersey, I went to a mostly black school and this was like pretty much my first time going to like an all-white school, pretty much where there's only like a couple of us, and Pat was just like dude, I got you. He's like, I'll show you where all your classes are, I'll show you how to open your locker. And me and Pat just became boys ever since then and we rode through all seventh grade together and Pat left me. For eighth grade Pat went to a whole different school, but I thank God by that time that I made new friends and stuff so I was able to keep going. But, um, yeah, me and pat became boys because pat was the like like I was a new kid. Everyone knew I was coming in. I came to school a month late, uh, and pat just took me under his wing at aldridge and, yeah, introduced me to pretty much every one of my friends that I kind of still have till this. Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 2:

That's crazy. Yeah, you know, like in retrospect, like when you talk about it sometimes it just kind of like fades, because I think for me I mean maybe back then I like tried my best to just kind of be like cool with everybody and yeah, like it wasn't like for me it wasn't like damn, I got to go show him around or anything like that like.

Speaker 2:

For me it wasn't like damn, I gotta go show him around or anything like that, it just felt, I don't know man, I think I'm. I'm such like a energy-based person and if you were somewhere like someone else, I probably wouldn't have done that. Yeah, so it was just. Yeah, I mean so, but yeah, we've been friends for that's, that's a lot yeah, almost like 20 years literally yeah, what?

Speaker 3:

because you go into what sixth, seventh grade, at what 13, like 12 somewhere around yeah, so that was probably like oh 13, right oh seven in seventh grade no how old are you in seventh grade like?

Speaker 4:

like 11, no, yeah no, that's no.

Speaker 3:

Because, no, because, no, because think about freshman year of high school.

Speaker 4:

You're like what like?

Speaker 2:

13, 14 yeah, no, you're right yeah, oh so almost 20 years, literally, yeah, damn. And it's so crazy too because, like like, I'll see you at the bar, like after, like I've moved across the country for, like you know, some time, and then I see you, and it's just the same type of energy, we pick up right where we left off.

Speaker 3:

Nothing's changed.

Speaker 2:

Nothing's changed so like those kind of friendships for me are, I want to say like they hit a little bit different, whereas like we're not like that close where we have enough time to annoy each other yeah, and probably do things wrong to each other and it's but we're not too far apart that like I see you and I'm like damn, do I say what's up to him?

Speaker 3:

we don't even really gotta ask, like we all, what's going on with you?

Speaker 2:

yeah it's like. It's like we pretty much just stay dialed in, like we'll check in. I mean, social media is like a blessing for that too, right like you can do it, I do what, uh, people are doing, but yeah, yeah, it's always been love and and we've never had a falling out, ever so it's been no, yeah, there's never been like any kind of beef between us.

Speaker 3:

I mean like, honestly, other people's beef don't involve us, but like we stay out of that. So oh for sure, oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, I've gotten involved like a couple of those where it's like by proxy yeah, yeah because it but my thing is is like like I've I've had like friends that like have like beef with in between the friend group, if it doesn't involve me, you're still my boy, you're still my boy yeah we just won't hang out all together. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

But we'll still make it happen. Yeah, we'll still make it happen. Yeah, we'll still make it happen.

Speaker 3:

I'll still find time for you, and I'll still find time for this other friend. May I miss something, whatever? But like I'm, do that to me too. I've never had to think of that with you.

Speaker 3:

If one of our boys snaked you but he didn't do it to me in the back of my mind I'd still be like that's still my boy, but I'm like, damn, am I next? Yeah, yeah, you know. No, honestly, I mean, we kind of have been blessed to like have such a good friend group that, like I don't think any of our boys would maliciously try to like snake us Like maybe like they've talked to a girl that we've talked to in the past, like without like checking in Bro our state is this big?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, yeah, nah, for sure oh shit, my girl said at this point those friends become like family and that's a fact. That's a fact. So, yeah uh, rudy and I met about 20 years ago. It's been good to see like his growth, his size increased. I remember you being mad, I remember you being super skinny.

Speaker 3:

Going into like 7th grade I was like 4, 8, not even. I wasn't even 100 pounds, bro damn.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was probably like 90 pounds, soaking wet I was small too, but, like in my mind, I thought I was jacked. You know, I was like I'm swole.

Speaker 3:

I don't think there's anything that I could have ate back then to make me put on weight yeah, I remember we used to rap to each other oh yeah, pat used to call me acon.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I wanted to like bring that up too because, like on the on the podcast that we shot, that like didn't have really good audio, like like rudy and I talked about racism in america and stuff like that and I was curious about like his input and if he's ever experienced things like that and like way back in the day for me, like if I were to call you a con on this podcast right now oh yeah, you're canceled people will be like how the fuck could he do that?

Speaker 2:

but, for me like a con was the coolest thing back then and for me growing up I looked like I looked like aladdin, I looked like mogli from the jungle book, so it was always like people and I never took it like on some fucked up shit. So it's like, but it's like so weird to like see that change.

Speaker 3:

How like if I were to say that now we also didn't grow up in such a sensitive culture yeah, yeah, you're right we didn't have the cancel culture, like you could say anything you wanted back then and it'd be like, oh, probably shouldn't have said it, but it got the likes and it got the views. Any publicity is a good public true, true nowadays, like you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, bite your tongue before you.

Speaker 1:

You gotta, you gotta double you gotta fact check bro yeah yeah, you gotta check your demographic before you say anything crazy.

Speaker 3:

But yeah, no, I never took it to any offense, like when people used to call me Akon. Like I said again, I went to a predominantly white school for like all my like middle school and high school and all that. So I mean, I never really dealt with anything crazy, crazy, besides one time when a principal tried to try me and my dad had to come and check him really, really quick.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, mr Libs, he tried it.

Speaker 3:

Damn. You got to tell the story quick. What grade was this? This had to have been.

Speaker 3:

I'm just going to send a little bag at you, yeah, yeah, this had to have been, I want to say eighth grade. Yeah, it was eighth grade and this was like when kids in our school thought smoking cigarettes were cool, oh jeez. So we were on the bus ride home and this kid that was sitting next to me had a lighter right and he's like lighting the lighter. He's burning shit on the bus and he burns the back of the school bus and the bus driver sees like there's smoke coming from the back. She turns around and goes back to the school, calls Mr Livesey up.

Speaker 3:

Mr Livesey turns around and goes back to the school, calls mr lives, yeah, mr lives. He comes out and, um, we all have to get off the bus and everyone like sat, all the cool kids sat in back, whatever, oh for sure. So everyone else filters off and I'm like one of the last kids to get off and like he stops me. He's like yo, I know it was you that like that was lighting the bus on fire. I was like what do you mean? You know that was me. He goes well, because you're black, and he said it like laughingly, but like obviously he's telling the fucking truth, of course, come on so I wasn't laughing and I go home like whatever they let us all back on, that was I'm like.

Speaker 3:

I'm like, yeah, that wasn't me. Like whatever, like obviously it really wasn't me. And I tell my dad this story and my dad was like, of course, calm as ever, calm, calm as ever. My dad takes me to school. I usually ride the school bus this day, like every day pretty much, and my dad walks into the school, takes me into the office and he's like yo, if you ever say another fucking racist thing to my son, again, it's a wrap, that's a good dad. And he's like, oh, I was just kidding. Like I thought he knew I was kidding my dad's. Like that's not something to joke about. Like, like I said, I was one of like what? There was me, ari Basel. I was like one of like five black kids in the whole school.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

So, like you can't crack jokes like that, Come on, that's crazy. Yeah, my dad wasn't too happy about it, bro.

Speaker 2:

imagine, oh no, I mean it would be named after me, like you know the school would be mine.

Speaker 3:

Damn didn't that school shut down aldridge did shut down.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's so weird to see like change happen in your hometown yeah, I mean what we lost aldridge.

Speaker 3:

We lost like a couple of the elementary school, yeah vets was no longer a high school. They were trash anyway.

Speaker 2:

But that's a different story, yeah, but yeah, I've known Rudy for a while, so, yeah, I knew this was going to happen. It was going to be a question and a tangent, but it's all good, it's all love. All right, mac, what else you got for us?

Speaker 4:

Okay, what's one thing that you think everyone should experience at least once in their lifetime?

Speaker 2:

Heartbreak Dude. I was just about to say that.

Speaker 3:

Heartbreak. I think everyone has to like it sounds awful. I feel like everyone has to get their heart broken. Yeah, because I feel like it builds so much character. It makes you not settle for less. Like you know. Like, like you know, you figure out what your worth is. You're like wow, I really cared for this person and you're just gonna rip my heart out. Now I won't give my heart out so easily and like I won't. I won't be so nice to just every single person. I think everyone has to go through hard work damn, that's deep.

Speaker 2:

No, like just intrinsically, without even a reason. I was going to say that because I feel like that's like kind of shaped who we are as people and I feel like the most successful people in the world. Like, when you ask them how their upbringing was or their relationships, they're never like, oh yeah, my life was good. It's always like, damn, I endured this, I endured that. Yeah, I feel like trauma, even though a lot of people can go a different way about it. There is a lot of retribution factors inside of it. So, yeah, that's yeah, I agree with you on that.

Speaker 3:

But in the moment it doesn't. No, I don't want, in the moment I want no one to go through it.

Speaker 2:

Dude, in the moment it does not feel like that Holy shit.

Speaker 3:

But once you make it out through the other side, it's just like, okay, I realize where this all went wrong. Here's how I'm going to move on from this, here's how I'm going to do better. But yeah, I feel like everyone has to go through that heartbreak.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, having kids for me with that is super difficult, because it's like you want to take away all their possibilities of getting their heart broken. And then it's like, can I really, am I really doing them a favor with this, you know? So that's that'll be, uh, like like my daughter's eight and like six, six or seven years, that'll probably be more of a pertinent thing. So we'll see how that'll go.

Speaker 3:

Yeah thing, so we'll see how that'll go yeah, no, but your daughter's gonna go through. You ever seen like um den of thieves?

Speaker 2:

yes, that's what your daughter you know, I've always thought about that and like people are like, oh damn, like you're gonna be like super protective and like this or that. And when I really go deep inside and I think about it, like you know how many like girlfriends fellas I've met that were like, if you hurt my daughter, I'm gonna kill you, and it just set this like weird tone to the like whole relationship now and I think for me I wouldn't even like come off like that from the beginning. I think I'm actually gonna be like super cordial and respectful and I, and then, if something were to happen, that's a completely different story. Right, I heard something funny. I don't know if it was a comedian, maybe it was Ice Cube. He was like, whatever you do to her, I'm going to do to you. Oh, was that Ice Cube? I don't know if it was Ice Cube or something like that, but I was like, damn, that's a good thing to live by.

Speaker 3:

I think it was Ice Cube drum street or 22 drum street when you said that yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So all right, mac, what else you got for us?

Speaker 4:

keep laying it on us um one sec that's okay, take your time I wasn't ready um, I wasn't ready what do you think happens after we die, and how does that belief influence how you live your life? I?

Speaker 2:

can take it first if you want.

Speaker 3:

It's up to you though I, I, I generally thoroughly want to believe that there's an afterlife.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because I grew up in a like a catholic house school so I'm like from pre-k to fifth I was in a catholic, so I generally do want to believe that there is. But like I don't know, like you ever been like knocked out, like not like physically knocked out or like been choked out or anything like that, because I have older brothers. So like I've been choked out and it was quick, like you know, it felt like I wasn't even like passed out. It was like was, it was quick, like you know. Like it felt like I wasn't even like passed out. Like it's like, oh, what happened? And like yo, you were out for a couple minutes. So like it leads me to believe that, like I generally don't want to believe that there is nothing afterlife that there is yeah, but I mean shit, I hope so.

Speaker 2:

I know that's the tough part, I think, growing up in a catholic household, I felt inside that everything that I was believing was derived off of fear, where it's like I would do things.

Speaker 2:

And then like I remember like one time it like this like bird's nest was like in my friend's backyard and it was like these like beautiful, like blue eggs, and like we touched one and we broke it on accident and I was a young kid and I was like, oh, I just killed something and I was like I'm going to hell, like that's it for me and it kind of like helps shape your decisions.

Speaker 2:

But also it's like, damn, am I really just like doing everything in my life like based off of this fear, and then it's like you just can't even operate to like who you truly are. It's kind of weird. But I think for me, I've had some experiences and I've gotten like some readings done and I've gotten like some messages from the other side that were too spot on to think that there isn't, something doesn't exist, whether like someone's like tuning into an imprint of a memory or something, but yeah, like there's something beyond what we perceive. But the real question is, is that when we die, are we ever, are we even going to be able to perceive it that we'd like, yeah, that we know like that, like oh shit, we made it like.

Speaker 2:

Like we're not gonna have that thought, like we go back to the ether, or that's not even what freaks me out about. Like the afterlife, I think like what makes me live my life, I would say better, is the thought of eternity, because, whether it's heaven, hell or nothingness, no, it's forever do you?

Speaker 3:

do you believe in like being reincarnated? Um like I remember, like you were last week, you and uh shaylee were talking.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she was like I'm coming back as that fucking fly yeah, um, I think I've explored different beliefs and there is some like I've known people that have gone to like um, it's called like a past transgressions class and it's like a it's like a meditative state that like helps you connect with like with past lives and stuff like that, and people have had some pretty crazy memories. And then I know like a lot of this shit gets like kind of like nerfed in the mainstream media, but there's like plenty of cases of people that like come back and they say that they remember stuff or they can speak different languages and stuff like that. I mean, it's probably like a very like limited, like a case-by-case basis, but I, I don't know. There was one point that so I'm sure you've heard of the, of the law of attraction.

Speaker 2:

Of course, there was one point that I believe that what you believe happens to you when you die is what happens to you, because for me it was like that made the most sense, like if, if you, if you think in your heart that you're going to come back, you'll find your way back. If you think in your heart that you're going to hell, you'll find anguish when you die. If you think that you're you're going to peace, you'll find peace and and that kind of gave me more comfort to live my life. I'd say more proper, because I don't want to die with you know anything negative on my heart which you know. Who knows if that's going to be the case or not. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, what do you think over there? Oh no, yeah, we talked about this on our podcast.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we did. We talked about heaven and stuff and I I feel like we both agreed that I think everybody goes to heaven.

Speaker 1:

Everybody.

Speaker 4:

Everybody, everybody, everybody.

Speaker 1:

They say all dogs go to heaven. God is so forgiving, I'm going to make my way up there.

Speaker 4:

What, what.

Speaker 3:

What did? You say I said all dogs go to heaven.

Speaker 2:

Bro, that is one of the first things my sons ever laughed at. What Is me going? Woof, woof. He just loves the dog songs. It's so funny. All right, mac, what's next? Um okay, those are like the only, like deep ones okay, that's deep questions, honestly, so we got them out of the way okay what's the worst thing you've done as petty revenge? I feel like he has to answer yo. We used to call rudy the petty god, so I feel like I could see that I have to think for a second, because I gotta take your time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the pettiest thing, I feel like when we shot our I think I said something right our non-audio podcast, I asked like what was the worst reason why you left someone? I broke up, probably, but I was pretty, is it the airport yeah?

Speaker 3:

yeah uh, the pettiest thing that I did. I've done some real petty shit. I'm not proud of it, but I think we all you know.

Speaker 2:

I think like when you do it, it's empowering and good. And then you tell like the when you do it, it's empowering.

Speaker 3:

It's all good.

Speaker 2:

And then you tell like the fucking story about it and it's fun. And then years later you're like I don't know how I really feel about that, but like still in that moment I feel like it served the situation justice, you know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the pettiest thing that I think I've done. Oh man, why is nothing coming to me right now? It's all good damn, I got nothing it's all good, you go, you go, you go first uh, fraley, gay y ain't.

Speaker 2:

Hey y'all, I love your shirt design. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. We try our best. Well, I mean, I try my best. What's up, guys, how you been. We're good, we're really good, just trying to articulate ourselves here on this podcast, the most petty thing. That was the question, right? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:

It was like about, about revenge, though.

Speaker 3:

I mean All right, that's specific. It's like out of revenge. I think the pettiest thing I think I've ever done is obviously either try to hook up with a girl's best friend or successfully hook up with a girl's best friend. Is that considered petty or is that spiteful?

Speaker 2:

I think that's both.

Speaker 4:

What would you call it?

Speaker 3:

Mac A red flag? Whoa, that's a red flag, but you don't even know what she did to me. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2:

Do you believe in karmic justice, justice? Do you believe that the universe has to fill gaps where this man was so hurt that that like universe, possessed him to do this?

Speaker 3:

no wow oh sorry, I tried um, yeah, I mean that that's happened, but like, yeah, I don't know about that. Is that like fully on me, though? Because, like if her friend no, her friend should know. They should know better, right yeah?

Speaker 4:

It wasn't your, so who's petty here?

Speaker 2:

I mean technically. Yeah, no that's some petty stuff for her friend too. Yeah, you know like that's Like relationships come and go, but friends should be forever.

Speaker 3:

That's one thing I will never entertain. Let's say, my boy did this girl dirty or whatever, and her decision to get back at him is to try to hug on me. You're getting laughed at, fuck no, you're getting laughed at that's never going to happen.

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't even know of a way for them to contact contact me, because I typically don't even like have them on social media. Like it's very like weird for me to like. I remember when one of our boys was dating like this, like fitness model, and I was like bro, like what? And like something came up and it was like why don't you follow me? And in my head I'm like why would I want to see half naked pictures of my boy's girl on?

Speaker 3:

the ground.

Speaker 2:

I feel that like for me, it's just I can't even. I just can't even go there. And then too, like I remember growing up with like one of our friends and and like his girlfriend was all of our homies, all of our homies, and like we go to like his crib, there'd be like 20 of us there and then they broke up and and it was just the most awkward shit ever, because it's like you like used to want to have like a friendship with this person, but like, but you kind of have to choose a side, you know. So I think it's best to keep those to like a minimum. You know, like double dating and shit's cool, but as far as, like you know, just like creating friendships out of that, it can get dicey it can get real dicey For sure.

Speaker 2:

Alright, Mac, what else we?

Speaker 4:

got. Would you rather cheat or get cheated on?

Speaker 2:

Damn. I think that.

Speaker 3:

Can we take a shot? Okay, that obviously means that you would cheat, then yeah, I mean there's a lot of pain that comes with getting cheated on versus.

Speaker 4:

So do you want to put that pain on somebody else?

Speaker 3:

I think, as unfortunate and awful as it sounds, I think I'd rather someone else experience that pain, because I've already felt that pain, yeah, so I don't think that I would want to go through it again, but that just makes me the cheater right.

Speaker 2:

Essentially, yeah basically, yeah, I think you can kind of gauge it from pain levels. But the way I think that you're looking at it is if someone were to cheat on me, bro, I'd be, I'd be fucked up for a while.

Speaker 2:

but if I were to cheat on them it wouldn't be like the same kind of pain because it wasn't happening to me if that makes any sense and I have to live with the guilt which, which, over a course of time, might really fuck you up, oh yeah, but then to get cheated on in real time, you're like yo, I'm going to be fucked up for months after this I'm not going to be able to eat. Yeah, that's a tough one, I think. Knowing what I know now, I'd rather just take the heartbreak up front.

Speaker 3:

Wait, so you'd rather be the one cheated on? Yeah, I think I would rather just take the heartbreak up front. Wait, so you'd rather be the one cheated on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think I would rather just feel that, because for me it's like okay, it happened to me, this shit sucks, but now I can keep it moving, whereas if I'm with someone and we go through our ups and downs or whatever and I got to live with that in the back of my mind, like that gentle scratch, like hey, you did this, you know, yeah, and then 20 years later it's like still scratching.

Speaker 3:

But I, I, I, 100 get what you're saying.

Speaker 2:

Because, like, I feel like but I get what you're saying too, because it's like dude like that. That shit sucks like in my relationship. Now do I want to get broke?

Speaker 3:

that would fuck me up now, um yeah, I mean, when you put like that, like so, like, let's say I was one that got cheated on, I'm like all right, dummy, you just lost something crazy. And then watching that person go through like the motions of like, maybe like her getting cheated on or like her getting put through the ring, I'm like stupid.

Speaker 3:

I would have never done that yeah versus like where, if I was the cheater and I cheated on that, I lost something good. And now I see her doing all this, all these good things, and like, oh, she just took her man's to somewhere and like, damn, that could have been me, you know, I mean, but like I was the idiot that did something stupid. Yeah, true, so I guess I've changed answer. I think I'd rather be cheated on. Yeah, because I'm going to come back. I'm going to come back crazy. I'm going to come back for your best friend.

Speaker 2:

I feel like she's running the show. She's not even on camera. Should we put a chair right here? It would get you in the middle. No, okay.

Speaker 4:

I look like shit. I'll give you a sweatshirt, hey.

Speaker 3:

Shaylee, I'm trying to fill your shoes today. I'm not as attractive as you, but I'm trying my best.

Speaker 2:

Wait, is she in? Yeah, oh, what up. Oh, what up. Shay, thanks for tuning in. I told her to stop by, but she was too busy.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's alright.

Speaker 2:

She's too cool for me nowadays, imagine she just walked in and was like get the fuck out of my seat.

Speaker 3:

I need to get up real quick.

Speaker 2:

I need to get up real quick yo, but I will say thank you for like tuning in like every single time I'll put you on while I'm watching the football game appreciate you oh, the Celtics are playing tonight.

Speaker 4:

wait, do you watch?

Speaker 3:

No, I'm a Miami Heat fan here.

Speaker 4:

I went to the Celtics versus the Miami game and I had court side seats.

Speaker 3:

That's dope. It was dope, that is dope.

Speaker 4:

No, I'm a Celtic. Wait, are you a Yankees fan?

Speaker 3:

I sure am.

Speaker 4:

Because you liked my story, they're playing tomorrow.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we're going to win that World Series. The.

Speaker 4:

World Series. You're not a sports fan, I don't even follow sports anymore.

Speaker 3:

I'm scattered when it comes to sports. I'm a Yankees fan, a Miami Heat fan and an Eagles fan.

Speaker 4:

Go Birds. Yeah, what? Why are you an Eagles fan, Archie? What's in here?

Speaker 2:

okay, you miss all the good stuff. I show tits and everything okay.

Speaker 4:

Next question yeah, let's keep it moving, would you rather? Would you rather live forever or die right now? So if I live forever, like forever, like you're never dying oh yeah, I'm gonna make this um.

Speaker 3:

If we live forever, do we watch our like loved ones pass away?

Speaker 4:

yes, take me now. You're the only person who's living forever. I'm fucking, I'm fucking living forever.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry. I'm sorry to put us on opposite ends wait hold on.

Speaker 3:

I had like a two parts that I don't like I mean, I don't have any kids yet, but like, let's say like I did have kids and then watching like my kids pass before me would fucking torment me. Damn bro, why you got to. I just have to ask that. It's like do I watch everyone pass? Yep, archie, the hair's getting cut this week, bro. Just so you know.

Speaker 2:

Why Got some hang time?

Speaker 3:

I mean, it's a little messy under here, but Archie wants me to. So Archie's my homie, and every time we go out drinking, whether I'm wearing a hat or anything, he yanks my hat off so he can see what my hair looks like, and he always catches me when I'm disheveled. What's he? A barber? Nah, nah, he's just a troll like that. That'd be some good marketing, though. He's just a troll like that, but Archie's my guy. What's up, archie?

Speaker 2:

thanks for tuning in and joining and I feel like, out of respect for him, we gotta see the hair at some point.

Speaker 3:

Nah, nah, nah. The hair's a mess. Archie, this 42's for you, baby. Should we pour some up for the? Let's do a little taste for Archie. Yeah, I need to. I'm gonna wash this down. No, I need to. I'm gonna wash this down. No, that's a lot not for a superstar.

Speaker 2:

So to anyone that's just tuning in, I bought me and Rudy a bottle of 1942 because I got us a bottle of Class A Azul and I feel like it jinxed us. Our fucking audio wasn't working. The last time we shot a podcast nothing went the way it should, but really it was all my fault.

Speaker 3:

I tried putting something oh yeah, aren't you throwing a question, bro? I'll answer any question. It's just not me doing an action.

Speaker 2:

I'm not taking the hat off my boy, oh yeah yeah, if shaley is still in here, uh, please put a question in there, because I feel like you know it's tradition. Yeah, she was like this ain't me.

Speaker 3:

All right, Mac, what you got yeah.

Speaker 4:

Okay, this one's kind of weird. I found it on Reddit, so Reddit's wild.

Speaker 3:

Reddit is wild.

Speaker 4:

Would you rather sit on a cake and eat a dick or sit on a dick and eat a cake? Wait, wait, wait. Would you rather sit on a cake and eat a dick or sit on a dick and eat a cake? Any way you answer this is wrong.

Speaker 3:

I'm good on this question.

Speaker 4:

No, you have to answer it. I'm not answering that. Sit on a cake and eat a dick or sit on a dick, and that's the same question as as as as a straight man, would I rather take dick in my butt or suck a dick yeah fuck I don't know if I can answer this, just simply because I'm like, I'm not is this a truth to drink type question, because I'll get fucked up, right now it wasn't, would you rather?

Speaker 2:

but you can drink instead yeah, I, I feel like there's no good outcome for this, yeah like to even imagine I. I appreciate you asking it, though, because, like for us to sit here and dissect it, I feel like just would really just question our character, you know.

Speaker 3:

So we're gonna say I'm not like a homophobe or anything but yeah, I would I would never do either like yeah I feel like if someone was if someone was with a gun to my head and said all right, you got to pick one or you're gonna get shot are you kidding? Put me on a t-shirt are you kidding?

Speaker 4:

put me on a t-shirt okay, but in life or death death okay I'm ready to meet my maker, archie, my eagles bro.

Speaker 3:

You don't want to see them, bro, be back baby be back um.

Speaker 4:

Would you rather get a paper cut every time you turn a page or bite your tongue every time you eat?

Speaker 3:

oh, give me, oh, I almost answered that too quick.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know where she was going with that but damn, is that like bite your tongue, that's the worst, like bite your tongue like every bite or like just once while I eat.

Speaker 4:

I don't know Every bite. And then when you flip pages, every time you flip a page you get a paper cut. Oh, I got to go bite my tongue.

Speaker 3:

Simply because I'm a bartender, and like you ever like cut, like citrus, and you don't know you have it cut. Oh, it's like, it's like.

Speaker 2:

It's fucking zings, man, it fucking zings.

Speaker 3:

I couldn't go through that every time, actually, nah forget that I'm going to go every time I flip a page because I don't read books like that, and if I did read books, I'm going straight to audio books.

Speaker 2:

So you just avoid books. I'm going to audio books or I'm going to look, that's intellect, I'm taking that yeah. No, I'm gonna. Yeah, I'm gonna back that I don't. I don't read often, but like paper cuts, like back in school sucked, but also, but in your tongue is equally you ever, you ever get a construction paper cut bro, those hit different. It was a guy it was a thicker piece.

Speaker 3:

It's a hot blade.

Speaker 2:

It's a hot blade.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm sure it's a hot blade.

Speaker 2:

Would you rather get stabbed by a steak knife or a butter knife?

Speaker 3:

Is the steak knife pointed at the end, or is it the round steak knife?

Speaker 2:

Oh no, it's like a sharp-ass knife or a dull knife.

Speaker 3:

Give me the steak knife.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Because I feel like it's going to go through quicker, quick.

Speaker 2:

Whereas the butter knife it's going to rip more skin on its way in and shit. Yeah, how about you Mac Steak knife stabbing or a butter knife stabbing?

Speaker 3:

Shaylee, we're waiting for a question from you.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, probably steak knife.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because it's going to. I mean it depends.

Speaker 4:

Are they going to keep stabbing me with a butter knife until it punctures me?

Speaker 3:

Well, you've got to get stabbed. Oh yeah, it's a stab.

Speaker 2:

Stab stab.

Speaker 4:

Okay, then I don't know. I feel like the butter knife would hurt your skin more, but I feel like it wouldn't hurt your insides as much as a steak knife would.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we'll go steak knife. Yeah, I'll go steak knife. That's a great question from Shaylee.

Speaker 3:

What'd she ask? Shaylee, we're going to answer that once we're done with these would-you-rathers and then I will answer that because I have experience in that.

Speaker 2:

Damn Shay, You're bringing the heat. Appreciate you.

Speaker 3:

I have experience in that, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, good yeah, now we got it yeah.

Speaker 3:

How many more would you rather see? There's four more questions All right, Shaylee, we'll get to that. I don't know if you're going to stick around, but I will definitely answer that because I have experience in that.

Speaker 2:

Same yeah, okay. Pat, you said this one 90s music or 90s TV shows pat, you said this one 90s music or 90s tv shows and and this is like a this or that, or drink like you ever see drink champs. Yeah, this is exactly what it is like. You have to choose one or you gotta take a shot, I'm gonna choose one. I'm gonna choose one.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna this, might this might shock the world as big as a music as I am. Like I love music. All I do is listen to music. Um, I'm going to this might shock the world. As big of a music as I am, I love music. All I do is listen to music. I'm going TV shows bro Over the music, because I find myself saying more things from the 90s TV shows than I do just randomly outbursting. Damn you're right 90s music Because, don't get me wrong, the 90s music was crazy.

Speaker 2:

Bro, when I hear Southside by Lloyd or something like that, it just fucking takes me that's 2000s. You've got to be a 90s baby to know that. 2000s. Yeah, it takes brain time.

Speaker 3:

I don't know. There's so many great shows that came from the 90s that TV could never remake like they've tried to remake it. But they're like peppa pig now and shit, it's like, it's like now, you're right, they try to do spin-offs on it, like it just doesn't hit as as hard, like you know, like what did we have growing up?

Speaker 2:

because I remember watching. I mean I was young. I watched some Barney. Of course I mean I'm not sure he's been to a lot of Barney. I watched some Barney. I watched um, I watched Power Rangers, I watched Rocket Power, I watched CatDog.

Speaker 3:

That's. That's like. That's like late 90s, Like, like, like SpongeBob came out in the 90s, bro, that's like a show that we've had you go back and watch the original episode of SpongeBob.

Speaker 2:

Oh shit, teletubbies, Nah Nah, I never watched, no fucking Teletubbies.

Speaker 3:

Dallas. We watched Teletubbies and Dragon Tales and all that stuff. But you go back and watch the first episode of SpongeBob and it's like the graphics it's ass, but we loved it. You got Rugrats.

Speaker 2:

See, right then. And there, bro, tommy was like shit. I want to be like him.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to go 90s shows for sure versus the 90s music because, don't get me wrong, the 90s music is phenomenal.

Speaker 2:

What the fuck is VeggieTales?

Speaker 4:

You don't know what VeggieTales is. No, what is that Is? It is VeggieTales.

Speaker 2:

You don't know what VeggieTales is. No, what is that? Is it like?

Speaker 3:

VeggieTales. Is that the story? Veggietales, VeggieTales.

Speaker 4:

I honestly don't know.

Speaker 3:

See Weren't, you born in 2004?.

Speaker 4:

I was.

Speaker 3:

See Okay, but.

Speaker 4:

I still watch all the things you guys are saying. I watched 90s TV shows.

Speaker 3:

You ever watch Dragon Tales?

Speaker 4:

Like.

Speaker 2:

I watched 90s.

Speaker 4:

TV shows. You ever watched Dragon Tales? Yeah, I actually have.

Speaker 2:

Is that different from Veggie Tales?

Speaker 3:

I guess that's the healthier version. But no, yeah, 90s TV shows Like bro, like I don't know if you had BET growing up, like obviously like you had the Wayans Brothers. Martin, you had all these other shows that were just like George Lopez.

Speaker 2:

Like come on, yeah, on, yeah, no, you're right. Yeah, I don't think I could. I could trade that for anything the waynes bros yeah and they're like the most excessive successful family. Like to ever touch tv because every single sibling got famous and when you were born, growing up too, it wasn't like I need music, it was like I need to put on the tv, like you know like.

Speaker 3:

That's when trl was real. Like you know, mtv was literally about music and not just ridiculousness, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, those are different times, way different times, like we've witnessed such a change. I think we grew up in one In technology.

Speaker 3:

I think we grew up in one of the best eras ever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Like we've literally experienced everything yeah, I feel like you walked into technology, like her generation is kind of we had a little off.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's a little off yeah like we had I wasn't like one of those kids like in, like I wasn't like three years old, like with a screen to my face.

Speaker 3:

That's my nieces now, but like but the thing is is like you, you ever suffer through dial-up. Do you know what dial-up is for internet?

Speaker 2:

Oh, just sit there and wait and then someone will call your house phone and it won't even go through.

Speaker 3:

Someone calls, you can tell when someone was calling because your shit would slow down, yeah, and then it was like damn, I just lost everything I was doing.

Speaker 2:

Bro, they won't even know Hitting a button four times to make a Z.

Speaker 4:

Yes, I would.

Speaker 3:

No, no, no, you know about it, but you'd never experienced it.

Speaker 4:

Yes, I used to have one of those phones at my house. What was your first cell?

Speaker 2:

phone. What was your first cell phone? Because my first phone was.

Speaker 4:

It was in I had an iPod, but in sixth grade I got an iPhone 6. But at my house we still have the house phone, the landline, and I used to use that when I was growing up. I would call my friends through that and we had one of the phones that spun.

Speaker 2:

This was some old action you guys had that just for style, but your first cell phone was. You had that for style. That was a choice, my first cell phone was a brick.

Speaker 4:

Kids are in third grade now and they have cell phones. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2:

I'm just saying that our viewpoint on technology. When the cell phone first came out, I got some Motorola something and it actually had a flashlight on it, but it was an actual flashlight built into it. It was this fucking brick.

Speaker 3:

It was so weird like built into it, it was like this fucking brick. It was so weird.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you like you don't remember the panic of back in the day when you had your flip phone and you accidentally opened the internet bro, because nothing was free back then, everything it was it was an arm and a leg to hit the and it was the worst internet like the, the, um, the were like this big on the screen and like you had to like, click, click, click, click, click. But like my first phone, I was kind of blessed. I got a passed down phone from my dad which was a Palm Trio, the fuck is that? Dude, it was like one of the first touchscreen phones, but it wasn't touchscreen like to your finger.

Speaker 2:

You had to have a stylus.

Speaker 3:

Oh okay, this thing was a brick, but touchscreen function, though the phone was like this big damn brick, full keyboard on there, yeah, but like I couldn't do anything besides make calls like hey, I need a ride home yeah, uh, my trajectory was I went from that to and then I went to the Razr.

Speaker 2:

Remember when the Razr came out and it was Matt, then, bro, I had a Razr like that and then Sidekicks.

Speaker 3:

So my trajectory was the Palm Trio. Okay, Then I got remember when Singular was a thing like the phone brand.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So they came out with the Alias. That was the phone that flipped up, or you could close it and you could flip it sideways. Damn, I always had nice phones. I always had nice phones.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's and then I went to sidekicks.

Speaker 3:

I had every single sidekick ever made, did you?

Speaker 2:

really every single one. My sidekick only half the screen worked sort of read text. I'd have to flip it like to read the other half of the text and flip it back.

Speaker 3:

It's fucking horrendous.

Speaker 2:

So then I went from.

Speaker 3:

Sidekick. Then I went to Blackberry, oh yeah, yeah, and then from Blackberry.

Speaker 1:

Remember, like the BBM.

Speaker 2:

Was it kind of like the iMessage and stuff?

Speaker 3:

My first Blackberry was the Blackberry Storm. No Storm yeah, that was when the screen clicked in. And LG Chocolate Bro.

Speaker 2:

I. That was when the screen clicked in and LG.

Speaker 3:

Chocolate Bro, I thought she was talking about you. Yeah, bro, yeah, I always had good phones, but I forgot what the question even was. We just got lost.

Speaker 2:

Mack, what was even the question I?

Speaker 4:

don't even remember.

Speaker 2:

I think it was about.

Speaker 4:

I don't think it had anything to do with what you guys are talking about.

Speaker 2:

Oh no, we'll get lost real quick. It was about 90s oh yeah, 90s TV. So yeah, we're, still like yeah, we're still back in the 90s. Eh no, we're like middle to late, mid to early 2000s. True, true, true. It's all a fucking blur at this point.

Speaker 3:

Bro, once you hit a certain age, because I'm still young, I'm a whole of that. I'm still young.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, now you got to keep saying that.

Speaker 3:

Everything just flies by.

Speaker 2:

I feel like the older you get, the more time goes by faster.

Speaker 3:

It's so odd, bro, I don't even odd, it's just like well, like I don't even know if it's a holiday, cuz I don't work at a job where, like I, get holidays off yeah someone has to be like yeah, we have.

Speaker 2:

We're gonna have a crazy week just thinking like why they're like it's like I'm like oh, it's Memorial Day, yeah, yeah, I've always wanted like like to ask you this, because there's been like so many times in my life where, bro, like I've been to med school, I've done so much, and in the back of my mind I've always been like, bro, I'm going to have to quit all this and become a bartender. And it's not even on some beneath me shit. It just seems so enjoyable to be around people having a fun time and like serving a fun time. So it's like for you, is it? Is there some kind of like peace that comes behind it, or is it just it like it doesn't feel like work for you in a way?

Speaker 3:

it's fun. It's fun like, do I enjoy bartending a hundred percent? Um, am I good at it a hundred percent? Do I like love the atmosphere of it? Yeah, for sure. But it's like like, yeah, like you said, it's like kind of like there's some times where you're like you don't feel like you're working. Yeah, it's like all right, I work a Friday and Saturday, but I work at a busy bar where it's very lively, people are coming, I'm meeting new people, my friends are coming. I'm meeting new people, my friends are coming. I'm technically out but getting paid.

Speaker 2:

True, true.

Speaker 3:

So, like, do we definitely get busy to the point where, like, we don't enjoy it For sure, but like at the end of the night, like when we're rubbing, like bro, there's been times I've made over $1,000 in a shift.

Speaker 2:

Damn.

Speaker 3:

Like you know, like it's granted the job, like maybe like some places do office, like there's definitely places that do office, my job comes with no benefits.

Speaker 4:

There's no.

Speaker 3:

There's no time and plan there's, there's, there's, there's, like there's none of that. You have to be smart with your money. Um, save some, because it's so easy to get caught up in this lifestyle where, like let's say, okay, I worked last night, I night I made a grand, right, most people aren't touching a grand in a day.

Speaker 2:

True.

Speaker 3:

So I feel like if I get out that night, like whatever, I get out early enough, I'm going to go to the bar. I could spend a good chunk of this because you know what I made a grand today, I'll probably make another grand tomorrow. Doesn't always work, yeah. It doesn't always work like that, yeah, but I'm gonna be honest, like dude, I've had so much fun bartending that like at this point now, like I still want to bartend, but I'm moving more towards the route of, like, setting myself up for the rest of my life like you want more stability or structure yeah, because, like a couple years ago I was trying to go buy a house and it's like showing that like I've made 20 000 in because, yeah, because I got like the best way to.

Speaker 3:

The best way to to rig the system is not to claim all your cash tips like.

Speaker 2:

You have to claim your cash, then it puts you in yep. You have to claim your credit card chips and.

Speaker 3:

But if you claim all your cash tips also, or like majority of your cash tips, you got to pay back. So, like the way to do is it's like all right, I'm not going to claim this extra cash that I made. But then you go to buy a house and they're like you're looking to buy a house and you made twenty thousand dollars last year. Like no, but like I made a hundred k actually, like I just didn't claim on my cash tips, whatever, and it's just like, yeah, it does fuck you in the end, damn. But dude, you've seen me behind the bar, bro, I'm working, I have so much fun, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's true. I've seen you also have some not-so-fun nights too, because it's dead or just you know, like some some bullshit happens at the bar and then it's like fuck I gotta step in now or someone goes behind your bar and fills up a drink and yeah, I wish zach was watching that'd be fucking great oh man, that was one of the funny I think that had to be one of the funniest things I've ever experienced in my life this bro. Watching him dodge her punches was like.

Speaker 3:

And then he comes behind my bar and fills up a cup of water. I'm like, bro, if you needed a water, you could have just asked me. He's like no, not my bad, we're good, and I watch him take this cup of water, bro.

Speaker 2:

I will say in his defense she was trying him. She walked up to him and just just smacked his hat off his head, yeah, and he was like, why would you do that?

Speaker 3:

and she was just trying to be funny about it bro, the kids are calm until he's calm, until you really try no, but like him and I walked across the street to get some pizza, like and calm down.

Speaker 2:

I heard about all that and then we like we got into a three on two fight and, um, I mean, one of our boys like him help us eventually, but yeah, like he really will keep it cool until until you really get until it's time not to anymore.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, we, yeah, that was just a fucking night for us it's always a night man yeah, that was a night, and then I remember being across the street and then someone from the like, someone from kai bar, like your security guard, had to come and pull us off these kids.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, no for sure, but anyways yeah, mac, let's get to the next one so we can get to shayla's question, because I really, I really want it.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, okay, oh, this is one of yours I've only been going for though does it tell you I? Don't even well, it's an hour. It's been an hour, oh cool, yeah we got another like 20, 30 minutes.

Speaker 2:

Let's go okay.

Speaker 4:

Would you rather be able to talk to animals or be able to speak every language?

Speaker 3:

oh, dr do a little fly on movie where he can talk to animals, but I would I would care less to talk to animals right if you, if he could just talk to every language, yeah for sure, Because I wouldn't even let people know that I can and I would just be like sitting there and like hearing someone speak a different language and I'd be like these motherfuckers are really talking about me Like I don't know, what they're talking about?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I'm taking the language all day.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think I'm going to take the animals.

Speaker 3:

Really.

Speaker 2:

Like every single animal. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3:

I'm going. I'm going speaking every language.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I just I think at this point. I've lived so long without knowing that I'm just like yo. If I could hear what my turtle's saying right now, we could just have a conversation about it, Like yo, what do you?

Speaker 3:

need from me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you can just have a conversation about it Like yo, what do you need from me? Yeah, no, I think I'm taking the animals, or just buying a dog, and just you ever seen those? I think the more companionship that you can find inside of animals, people tend to keep their distance from other humans too, where, which probably isn't even a good thing. Imagine if you could talk to animals.

Speaker 3:

I feel like it wouldn't be good. You'd be a real fucking recluse. I feel like it wouldn't be good. Imagine you have a dog and, as a bachelor, that's my girl.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, see, she's about really helping a nail salon.

Speaker 3:

They always talk shit yeah yeah, yeah, imagine, well, only you would understand, or whatever. But imagine you have we always talk shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, like the thing is like imagine, oh well, only you would understand, or like whatever. But like imagine like you have a dog and like you're a bachelor or whatever or any kind of pet, whatever, and you're just constantly bringing girls around Like damn, another one, huh, and I'm like yo shut up and go eat your food.

Speaker 2:

Shut up and go eat your food. Yeah now, yeah now mind your business?

Speaker 3:

yeah, like like do you want to eat?

Speaker 2:

but no, I feel like I would want to speak or understand every, every language because, like I will say that, the one deciding factor for me is that my girlfriend speaks russian, and every time she's on the phone speaking russian, I'm like what are they saying? I'm like, oh, she talked. I said was that about me so. But anyways, that'd be the one reason why it's like the more that, like I'm engaged with people that speak other languages, I'm like, yeah, but you know, like talking to every single animal would be dope too.

Speaker 3:

That'd be pretty cool.

Speaker 2:

That'd be cool All right, what else we got.

Speaker 3:

That's biting in your room like I'm watching you.

Speaker 1:

Oh see, that's biting. Yeah, no, actually that's a cutoff scene.

Speaker 3:

I'm watching you.

Speaker 2:

You're like who said that, yeah, no, actually, yeah. After that, after you said that, yeah, I don't want to hear none of that shit. I don't want to hear dude, the fucking fruit flies on my house because of all the fucking food I eat.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, I don't want to hear that actually I'm straight.

Speaker 2:

What would you choose?

Speaker 4:

Languages guy online. Yeah, he's this white guy and he speaks like every fucking language and he go. He was like in japan or something and he was like sitting there and he I don't know, he can like understand what everyone's saying. It's cool, yeah that's so cool. That's a good way to get one, yeah, and that just like looks good like you could get like jobs with that like you can get any job.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, if you speak every fucking language, you'll get whatever job you want. You can speak every fucking language, you'll get whatever job you want Any job.

Speaker 4:

Okay, always have to tell the truth or always have to lie. Would you rather Always have to tell the truth or always have to lie?

Speaker 2:

Always have to tell the truth or always have to lie. Would you rather, damn? Do you know what's crazy? I was watching a tv show with my girl earlier and like coincidentally, something happened and everyone in the world like started telling the truth and it just became absolute chaos, like everyone was just being like way too overboard with it. But so it's either always tell the truth or always have to lie. I mean, like initially you're like, yeah, like I want to be a good person, I'll always tell the truth, but it's like I think the shit that I hold, yeah, but the shit that I hold back is like do I really want to be saying that?

Speaker 3:

because, simply because, like you don't want to be known as a liar. True, it's like you. If you have to lie constantly and then you get fact checked, they're like yo.

Speaker 3:

That's not good for business like you know, like that's always lying or whatever, where if you're telling the truth, they're like yo, no, this is really him. Like he's telling you how he feels, whether it hurts or not. It's like there's not a realistic world where someone doesn't lie, because it's like you lie just to like either avoid confrontation or you lie to spare someone's like feelings. You know, yeah, but if you're telling the truth all the time and someone's like, oh, like, how does this look? And it's like, well, I don't like it, it doesn't fit you, correct or whatever, but like this person took so much time to think about what they were putting on that like you just shattered everything.

Speaker 2:

True.

Speaker 3:

Where, if you're lying, it's like all right, I don't know. I think I'd rather tell the truth. Nah, I think I got to lie. Yeah, no, I got to lie, I think.

Speaker 1:

I'd rather tell the truth, Nah I think.

Speaker 4:

I gotta lie. Yeah, no, I gotta lie, you're so indecisive.

Speaker 2:

No, I have to lie. No, but like what he's doing is what most people like lack Don't make an impulsive decision and just kind of like stick with it and not try and articulate it and actually think it out. Like he's talking it out and then in real time being like wait, do I actually believe that?

Speaker 3:

I think I'd have to be like it's good. It would suck to be a compulsive liar to like your significant other. But, like you, telling like the truth all the time to your significant other could be just as detrimental yeah, I feel like if you lie, it doesn't have to be too bad of a lie a white lie, yeah it's like do you?

Speaker 2:

I fibbed like do you want me to cook meatloaf tonight?

Speaker 3:

no you know, I don't like your meatloaf I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, that's a, that's a tough one. If that was a choose, a drink, I'm gonna I don't know.

Speaker 3:

I think I think I don't know. Yeah, no, there's a happy medium like being like I would. I can say that I tell the truth more than I actually lie. Oh for sure, because with a lie you gotta stick with that and you have to remember that lie and for some reason they always come back up and you're like ten years later and you're like fuck what did I say yeah?

Speaker 2:

it's fucking bullshit. Yeah, it's always better to be honest and tell the truth. I'd rather be known for that, yeah.

Speaker 4:

I'm going to go with that. What truth.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm going to go with truth. That's what I would go with too, that's an easy one.

Speaker 4:

Okay, that was a little. Oh, actually, what would you say is your own red flags about yourself?

Speaker 2:

I was like like when you guys were talking, I was like I need to ask them that, because what are our own red flags?

Speaker 4:

just one, or like the whole list, I don't know I can't, I can't sit on here and yeah, we'll be here forever julia, you better not say shit.

Speaker 2:

Um, how about the most like prominent one?

Speaker 4:

okay, go ahead all right.

Speaker 2:

So the question was what are like? What's the red flag that we have?

Speaker 3:

damn, I would probably say my biggest. I wouldn't even really generally call it a red flag, essentially because it's part of my job. Is that Even I'm like semi-flirtatious? I knew you were going to say that, but it's my job though. So my job is to keep people coming to my job and essentially give me their money, because I make $3.89 an hour.

Speaker 2:

So you have to.

Speaker 3:

I have to sell the fuck out of myself. I can sell you as many drinks as I want, but you're still gonna tip that 20 on that drink. Maybe, but if I, if I wow you, that 20 goes up. Yeah, so my thing is is like so you're a flirt I in only certain aspects okay.

Speaker 4:

Okay, but wait. But if you had a girlfriend you still would, Because it's your job. I flirt respectfully.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so it's not over the top.

Speaker 3:

I still use the words like love. I don't say babe, or like can I get you sweetheart?

Speaker 4:

Ew, don't say that.

Speaker 3:

I've mastered this game, I'm good at my job, but my thing is is like I won't, I won't go past that. You know. Like I won't, like they'll, they'll. Like they can leave me their number. They're never going to get a text from me. If anything, I'll hand it to one of my coworkers and be like yo and they'll text them and like saying it's me joking around.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would honestly say that, like I don't know if that's considered a red flag, but like, I'd probably say that was my, that's what my red. Yeah, I feel like if, if you were to have a conversation with a girlfriend of yours, you'd be like, hey, like, this is a possibility, like, and I, I, I need you to understand that if I say these things or act a certain way, it's just my job. But they might be like I, yeah, I can, can't deal with that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, like what Shaylee just said, it's like dude, the most busted girl of all. I'm not even trying to sound malicious or like an asshole, but the most busted girl could be flirting with me. I'm going to flirt back. It's just my job. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, do you ever feel bad about it, though You're like, is there ever like a moment where you're like she may take this the wrong way?

Speaker 3:

As far as. Like, let's say Like me being flirty.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like let's say there's a girl like coming to the bar and she's just like not even on your level. And let's say there's a girl coming to the bar and she's just not even on your level and you start talking a certain way. Is there a point where your brain thinks I know she'll be back, but also like, damn, I don't want her to get the wrong idea.

Speaker 3:

So in the industry, man, one thing about it is you're single when you walk in that door. Okay, Respectfully, you're single. You don't mention that you have a significant other, unless it's like your scapegoat, like you have to drop it Okay, so it's a tool in that situation.

Speaker 3:

Yes, so like if, if, um, let's say yeah, um, let's say like, like you know, things are getting like a little weird. She's like yo, what are you doing Like? What are you doing like? And you actually have a girlfriend like, whatever you're like, they're all like, I appreciate it, like, thank you so much, but like my girlfriend wouldn't, like, okay, boom, okay, that's, that's, that's like your last thing. Because, bro, like you could, you could potentially like, lose a cuss, not cuss. Like you can use a customer, you can use, you can lose a regular. Let's say like, let's say like, you never know, like this, this girl's feeling. You like, you're talking to her, whatever, and and then, all of a sudden, you're like my girlfriend this, my girlfriend that, and now you're venting to them. It's like all right. Well, I'm not going to talk to this bartender anymore. True, whatever, but as a bartender, you know you have to flirt. Whether you want to or not, you have to. Whether the person's attracted to you or not, then that's when you engage like.

Speaker 3:

If the person like starts getting too much, that's when you're like all right, let's reel this in yeah my girlfriend wouldn't like this, or like my boyfriend wouldn't like this, or like I appreciate it, but I I'm seeing someone. Or like oh, I appreciate it, I'm mad you know how many like female bartenders and by that, point.

Speaker 2:

They're like x amount of drinks in. They got to tip even more now just because of the Because you made them feel awkward.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, right.

Speaker 2:

Do you ever have Side question? Do you ever have, like people that are your friends come in and you're like Like you're excited to see them but you know they're shitty tippers.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, you're like all of them. No, not all of them. Nah, nah, oh yeah you're like all of them.

Speaker 3:

No, not all of them. Not like the homies. The homies always blast, like, like, like people I've known for a long time that like have come to see me, they always blast, but like, there's always that one that like they think they're super close with you but it's like, all right, I'm gonna tend to everyone else before I get to that. I've been doing this forever. I know what you drink it like oh true, you know like it could take me two seconds to make you drink the minute I walk in.

Speaker 2:

You're like here you go, I'm like yeah, you drinking the same thing?

Speaker 3:

All right, boom. But they had this, for sure Customers. I'm like what's up, bro? They're just talking, talking, talking. I'm like, yeah, I'll get to you in a second. I take my time.

Speaker 2:

I've seen that happen in real time.

Speaker 3:

I'll take my time Like cause. I know I'm not going to get anything that that's worth me stopping what I'm doing to get you your drink. You know what I mean, so I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't have any red flags, so we can keep it.

Speaker 4:

That's such a lie. Oh yeah, we were talking about red flags. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Um, I think from okay, so yours was, you'd be a little bit of a flirt. I don't feel like I'm a flirt at all, so I won't even say that I'm not even saying, just a little bit.

Speaker 3:

Let's say I'm dating someone and I'll meet her mom. I will flirt with her mom more than I will flirt with my girlfriend.

Speaker 1:

It's just who I am. No, that's necessary, it's like a charm.

Speaker 3:

It's a kind of amazement.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no. So the real red flag is that you're way too charming for your own good.

Speaker 3:

There we go. You just can't help it. I'm a detriment to myself.

Speaker 2:

All right, I will say that.

Speaker 3:

Like my red flag is.

Speaker 2:

I probably do have a little bit of an ego.

Speaker 3:

It's not bad to have an ego.

Speaker 2:

It's not bad to have an ego.

Speaker 2:

Yeah To a certain extent but I won't say that like I don't like walk around flaunting it to put other people down. I walk around using it to lift myself up, if that makes any sense. Like I feel like like I could walk around being a certain way, but I don't. But in, like, in certain situations, like if I'm tested, it it'll come out. But I've been through times in my life where I haven't had an ego and I was a doormat. So I feel like, to a degree it definitely serves me. But I also realize that for me, modesty equals depression and having a form of arrogance equals optimism, and having a form of arrogance equals optimism, whereas, like, the more I believe in myself, the more I can endure things better and the more I'm modest. Where, if someone were to say, oh, pat, like you're doing great and you're so successful, like in this, and that I'm like yeah, yeah, cool, like the modesty in that isn't affirming that, like what they're saying is the truth, you know.

Speaker 2:

But yeah's it's a fine line and I don't. Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, sometimes I can have a bit of an ego wait, hold on, mike, what's your big red flag?

Speaker 4:

um, I think that I could be too impulsive and like say things out of spite, like I think I could be like mean not like you're a mean girl. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a mean no, I'm not mean at all. I think that like, but like if somebody pisses me off, like I'll kind of like fire back and then like as you should, you gotta, you gotta defend yeah, I know but.

Speaker 2:

I feel like it can be like have I ever got under your skin to the point where you wanted to do that?

Speaker 4:

stop one time I had a boyfriend. Listen, there was one time I had a boyfriend and he was like he's in the military and he was in japan and I was yeah, I was talking to pat about him and he was like, not gonna lie, like he's probably fucking bitches over there and like not saying anything and I was like in my mind I was I didn't say it like that all right, he didn't word it like that that was like.

Speaker 2:

that was like't word it like that, I did not word it like that at all. That was like the idea. The gist.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, like that was what you meant.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like you were saying.

Speaker 4:

And then I broke up with him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you were saying a certain something that I perceived as like naive and I was just giving you a dose of reality.

Speaker 3:

He was giving you the raw facts.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I wouldn't say that they're facts. Yeah, I didn't say that.

Speaker 2:

I know he's doing this but I'm like in a situation where you're isolated away from your girl in a foreign country. You want to seek comfort to a certain degree, and if it was proposed to him and he knew there'd be no repercussions, why wouldn't he? How are you going to find out?

Speaker 4:

She was like well, no one cares now because, yeah, I don't care anymore.

Speaker 3:

but all right, what else you got for us?

Speaker 4:

because I want to answer that's literally yeah, that's it oh perfect.

Speaker 2:

Let's get to your question all right, so shaley, who was the other co-host she asked a question a while ago that said all right. So this was the question from shaley. Do you think there was a difference between men dating women with kids and women dating men with kids? Do you want to go first or?

Speaker 3:

yeah I'll go first, sure, um, I'm gonna say no. Uh, simply because if the person that let's say, I'm the one dating a girl with a kid and I don't have a kid, I'm not bringing something to this relationship. Obviously I'm bringing something, but I'm not bringing a kid into it, whereas if we both had kids, it's a different story. But let's say, one is a single parent. No one doesn't have a parent like a kid.

Speaker 3:

Um, a lot comes with dating someone that has a kid, whether they're the, the mother of the child or the father of the child. Um, is in the picture, yeah, and how much is he in the picture? Um, it's. I mean the girls that I've dated that had, that have had kids. They have essentially like baby dads. Okay, we're not like baby daddies, like the father's still in the picture, but like the father isn't gonna like reach out to me and be like yo, you better like make sure my kids. Okay, first off, like, one thing about me is I'm rudy. A lot of kids like my, my best friend's kids, call me uncle rudy. Um, it's for me it's not like a deal breaker, but it is a lot.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, uh, because I'm gonna sound such like a piece of shit, hey I'm judging you I'll join in but, um, I, for me, I have no kids and I want like to have kids, obviously, but, um, I want my experience of my first kid to be your experience of the first kid.

Speaker 3:

If that, yeah, in a perfect oh yeah, in a perfect world, for sure um, don't get me wrong, I'll still be that cool dude like that's my homie, and I feel like I've never actually gone through because, like, when I have ended things with the girls that had kids, it was it's like we're still homes, okay, I mean where I've had friends who were dating girls who have kids and they break up with a girl and now that attachment to that kid that, like you really necessarily weren't looking for is gone, but now you miss that kid.

Speaker 3:

So I feel it goes both ways, where, like you sign up for something but you didn't you you may have known what you were signing up for, but like now, like you lost, like an innocent soul that looked for you, yeah, like you you grew that bond with that kid that, like that kid didn't even know that the kid was looking for and now that kid has no access to you anymore and either asking their mother or father where that kid is and you gotta tell them that like, oh, this person's not gonna be around it. But why? But why? Because you know kids favorite word is why, sure, um, I don't, I don't know. Um, I would, uh, I wouldn't. Like shaley asked if it was baggage. I wouldn't say it's baggage, because you know I will never judge someone for what they did prior to me.

Speaker 3:

And if you're, and if you're bringing that to this, all right, cool, let's, let's see how it works yeah but um, for me it's never necessarily been like a deal breaker, but do I try to stay away from it? For sure, but like no, just simply because like. So yeah, like I said, I want to, I want to experience that together for our first time.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but we're like, if you've already had a kid, you can't. You've already felt that feeling that I've felt. Granted, it's a different feeling of us going through it together, but would I say it's different? No, I wouldn't say it's different simply because, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say it's different because, yeah, as a female, I could only imagine like, let's say like I'm dating the guy that has a kid and then he's got that crazy baby mama.

Speaker 3:

You know what I mean yeah I feel like, as far as guys go like well, like, let's say I don't know you're dating my, my bm, all I ever, all I'm ever gonna ask you is you'll just be good to my kid for sure and respect her in front of my kid. Whatever you guys do, don't fight in my kid. In front of my kid, do what you gotta, do not in front of my so I agree with everything that you said.

Speaker 2:

I think for a generality, like speaking in general, because exceptions don't just prove the rules right I think in general for a woman to see a man interact with their kid, she could see like stock in his nurturing side and like see stock in the way that, like he interacts with the world as far as like being a certain way and like nurturing. So that could be like damn, I see how he's with his daughter. He'll probably be like that way to me for a man. I think for men, like we want women to experience the world through our eyes. Where, like I want to show you the world, like when you get in my car, I want to know that it's a cool car to you when I take you somewhere. I want to know that, like you probably haven't been here before your first time here. Like like I want to know that it's a cool car to you when I take you somewhere. I want to know that, like you probably haven't been here before.

Speaker 2:

It's your first time here, Like I want to create memories with you that you know, like, you can experience, like through my eyes and I can show you the way, and that kind of requires you being number one, whereas, like you start dating a girl that has a kid right off the rip, you're always going to be number two. Girl that has a kid right off the rip, you're always going to be number two. And I think the way that like men operate, that's a very difficult thing because, like these things that, like you want to show a woman out in the world, they're always going to have to check with someone else first and like not even to the capacity of I gotta check on my son, it like to see if it's okay, it's it, can I even make this possible? Whereas, like right off the rip, it's like you can't do the things that you would want to do in a relationship, because I'm not going to call it baggage, but like they have someone else to worry about, you know. So, as far as like in in generalities, I do think it's different because like men operate differently.

Speaker 2:

Like I feel like men try to like put themselves out there, conquer, grow, like, start this, start that. Like I want to be this, I want to be that, whereas like woman, intrinsically like look for more of a nurturing nature inside of men and like something like to nest in. So like if you have something that I can work with and go on like you already have a good relationship with your daughter Cool that I can work with and go on like you already have a good relationship with your daughter. Cool like in my relationship. Like my girlfriend came in and I had a seven-year-old but but, granted, like my daughter is like really cool, like, imagine, like if if she was an asshole, like if she was an asshole.

Speaker 2:

It'd be like a way different story where I know for me it would be more difficult like for me like to get on board with that too, because I dated a girl like way back in the day and I remember just like, uh, chopping up like one of our boys. I was like bro, one day he's gonna look at me because I thought it was going somewhere and I was like, imagine one day like, and I was doing a lot for him at that point in time and I was like one day he's gonna look at me and be like you're not my dad, you know so it's, it's, it's very, it's very difficult.

Speaker 2:

Um. Is there a difference? I don't know, I think. I think it like. It all depends on each person, every situation is honestly, like it's different.

Speaker 3:

Here I go again, bro, acting my statements.

Speaker 2:

I do think it's different it can, it can get tough and here's why I'm gonna say that it's different.

Speaker 3:

Um, all right, boom, here we go. Uh, let's say I'm a single dad, correct? I'm taking care of two mouths yeah right, you're coming to the picture.

Speaker 3:

Single, I'm taking care of one mouth it's a lot different and then I start dating her and she, let's say she has full custody. Custody the father's not around I'm taking care of. Now, three mouths where I'm not even saying like, this is the world that we live in because, trust me, it's a it's, it's, it's not very rare to come upon, but like it's less likely, um, where the like I'm gonna sound like a jerk, it's okay, but uh, we can loop it. If a single lady is going into a relationship where the man has a kid, she could help help take care of the kid, but she's not going to take care of the kid as much. That's still my kid.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

There's that stereotype where the man is supposed to take care of dinner. Okay, now I'm taking you out to dinner and I got to take your kid out to dinner too. Don't get me wrong, I'll do it. Don't get me wrong, I'll do it, but it's never gonna be. Or it could still be like where like it's very rare that you come upon this where it's like all right, I'm like the women's, like, all right, I'm bringing my kid out, I'll take care of the bill, since my kid's here but then it puts you in a weird predicament too, where you're like now, even if she did do that, it's like no, I got it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, of course, I don't know. I mean, I, I in a great world. I want to say that there is no difference. Um, I wouldn't call it baggage. I would say that you're bringing something special with you. Yeah, because you, you know, like if that kid's cool, that's gonna be.

Speaker 2:

That's the thing too, because I was at something on the last podcast and I was talking to my daughter and like someone like commented something and I realized that, like my perception of of of that exact situation is a bit askew, because I have a good kid, yeah, where I'm like dude if I was, if I start dating someone and I know my kid's an asshole. It's a way different conversation at that point in time where it's like, oh, okay, like, okay, like now I know I'm bringing baggage, whereas, like my daughter will like get on board with anything and be cool as hell, whereas like if my kid like I know it's going to throw temper tantrums and be like who the hell are you?

Speaker 1:

Kids are disrespectful nowadays bro.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and Callie's always been the sweetheart. That was my workout partner for a little bit.

Speaker 2:

oh yeah, yeah, yeah, bro, yeah like like the nature versus nurture thing. I don't really know exactly where, like the lines meet, but like my daughter is the biggest sweetheart in the world, so it it definitely. And like I've asked my girlfriend that too, I was like yo, like if my kid was an asshole, would we be together? She was like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, yo, because it would just create this like dynamic, that is unpleasant.

Speaker 3:

It's also the person that comes with it, like you know, like it takes two to make a kid, so like, yeah, whether that that other parent is in the picture, and how, how chill are they, you know, like are they?

Speaker 2:

are they causing more? Are they?

Speaker 3:

mature, like to like, know they're like okay, my person that I had my kid with is is, is seeing someone else like I'll, I'll be an adult about it, as long as that person's still good to my kid. True, there's some people that don't even give you the opportunity. You know, I don't know. There's certain things that come with, like obviously someone that brings a child into a relationship with them, but like it's never like. I meet a girl out and she's like oh, I got a kid. I'm like nah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you got to see.

Speaker 3:

I'm like no, yeah, you gotta see, there's never a time like that. It's like all right, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta dive in more, like you know.

Speaker 2:

I gotta, I gotta find out yeah, see what they're about, what kind of parent they are. Are they even yeah?

Speaker 3:

yeah, there's a lot of custody of your kid like right, are you a weekend warrior? You know, yeah, no, we gotta figure this out together are you dropping them off at grandma's house to go get a shot at the bar?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like, where are they right now? Yeah, where is your kid?

Speaker 3:

at.

Speaker 2:

While you and I are together. That's great.

Speaker 1:

Damn.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's gone. Do you got anything else? Mac no, Nothing to fire off.

Speaker 3:

Not really. I feel that that's what we were saying. It's like, it's never like the kid, the kid, the kid, the most innocent soul you'll ever meet. It's usually the other parent.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And it's like whether the other parent is mature enough to understand that, like, we're co-parenting and you also have a life and you also have needs that need to be fulfilled. I'm not going to make your life a living hell simply because you want to still enjoy your life. Yeah, we had a kid, things didn't work out. But I'm not gonna make your life hell because you want to to be an adult, you know. Yeah, like we're humans, like we, we need companionship, as much as some people will say, like I'd rather be alone oh yeah, I'm alone, or yeah, no, you don't like.

Speaker 3:

Everyone wants somebody like like, being single's cool, but when it hits 2 am and like you're still up and like you're like, damn, like I could be like with someone like well, yeah, it's whatever, but like, um, yeah, it's all about how mature the other person is and if that person is not mature, they're gonna make your life live in hell. And like I got homies who got bms that they're not with anymore, and like that her, her sole mission is to like, make their life treacherous. Damn, like, like, she's like you, oh, you bought a girl around my kid. You didn't, you didn't ask me. You, her sole mission is to make their life treacherous, damn. She's like, oh, you brought a girl around my kid. You didn't ask me, you didn't ask for my permission and I never met the person.

Speaker 3:

That's not your book to play. Yeah, what I do in my spare time is it doesn't involve you. Yeah, I get that we have a kid together, together and you want what's best for your kid. But like, at the same time, you don't even know this person yet and you're already judging by character. Like whatever, yeah, but that's why I'm I don't got any kids yet. Uh, do?

Speaker 3:

you want kids though for sure, for sure, for sure. But the thing is like I said, I don't want to be in like the person that I have a kid with is going to be my wife and that's going to be my last and only wife. That's my soulmate. That's deep. That's it like yeah, I will never make one child support payment. I will not do it.

Speaker 2:

I will not do it yeah, trust me, it sucks, it's just not even on some like like you don't want to support your kid, but it's like I get my daughter anything she wants and I have her like so frequently and I'm always there. So it's like sometimes if you're actually in the picture and you're an involved dad, you're like you know, for the past couple of weeks I've had her more. What the fuck am I paying child support for?

Speaker 3:

It can get a bit dicey. Child support is a little dicey in my opinion. Granted, like I said, I don't have any child support, but it's like I will pay for whatever my child needs, but you also have to do the same. It's like I'm not going to pay for essentially your cost of living when it doesn't cost my kid essentially that much to live. You know what I mean essentially that much to live. You know I mean like that sounded crazy, but it's like I'm not gonna give you xyz amount where you have money for you to be able to go on a trip or like you, you, you buy all these things and I'm like I, I got this, this measly job where I'm like my daughter. My daughter needs supplies, clothes, food and lights or whatever, but like my daughter needs supplies, clothes, food and lights or whatever, but like I don't know I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah. I never want to be a baby daddy, I want to be a husband.

Speaker 2:

Good for you.

Speaker 3:

I want to be a husband. And bro, you've known my life for a long time and it's crazy, I don't got a kid. It's crazy, I don't got a kid. Yeah, my situation now bro, I can, I can back that.

Speaker 2:

It's like love you too, shaley I had a kid when I was young and it was like I have a newborn son that's like three months old, you know, and it's like I don't want to like do like these same mistakes. It's like, nah, like I want to commit to this, I'm gonna, like I want to do what I have to do, like to make it work. It's like I don't want to see my son like I mean like my daughter like went through it, like pretty young, that like that separation like, but to act like it probably has no effect on her at all whatsoever yeah, it's just naive yeah, you know but it's like right now.

Speaker 2:

It's like, nah, like I want this to be it, like I want more kids, like I want a family, like I want to see how I want to come home to my kid and my wife every single fucking day bro, it's a, it's such a. It's such a, it's such a dope feeling like there's like nothing better than like walking in, and like they're just chilling and doing something. And your son looks at you like bro, like my son is the happiest motherfucker ever. It's so weird, I'll walk in.

Speaker 3:

He'll be like it's just, it's, it's such a good feeling nah, I inspired to get that one day, but like I just gotta, gotta figure out some shit bro, it'll happen, it'll fall into play like when it should and for sure.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, to like you know, I feel like some of the girls that you've been with, it's like probably good that it didn't happen. You Same for me, for sure, brother.

Speaker 3:

You know For sure, man. Yeah, I've had some things in my life.

Speaker 2:

Gotta go boys, yeah, no, yeah. Thanks for tuning in, shay.

Speaker 3:

Wait, we got one more opinion. To get real, real, real quick. Mac, what do you think About what? The question we just answered?

Speaker 2:

About kids, the kids. Yeah, I've never dated kids.

Speaker 3:

I mean, you're also. You're also a lot younger. Yeah, so they're asking the question. Sorry, wonderful, that's okay.

Speaker 1:

Hey sweetheart.

Speaker 4:

What up girl?

Speaker 1:

The question is like do you think it's different dating a guy with kids or a woman with kids? It's harder to date a woman with kids than it is to date a man that has kids.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Heidi's a real one.

Speaker 4:

That's what I said.

Speaker 2:

She knows, that's what I said.

Speaker 4:

He said yeah. I said, pat said that too. No, wait, did you say that? They both said that yeah.

Speaker 1:

Because the man can do whatever they want and the wife, the mother. The mother has the kids a lot more.

Speaker 2:

That's a very basic answer, but it is true.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we said that it's obviously harder for a male to date a woman with kids simply because um with the kid comes like you know, like, let's say, we still go to dinner, I'm still gonna pay for you and your kid, versus like where, if I have a kid, you wouldn't be paying for that. Essentially, I'd still be feeding three mouths at the same time. Is what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:

no, matter what. Yeah, I think you would have more freedom as the oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

No, men, in general you do have a more guy yeah, for sure, for sure, we got to get you on the podcast.

Speaker 4:

Like Pat with Cal, like Pat with.

Speaker 3:

Cali Cali's a sweetheart. We absolutely love her.

Speaker 2:

I have Cali so much so it's very hard for me to say that I have more freedom.

Speaker 1:

But when you first got, when you first separated, did you have more freedom?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, because I didn't have my daughter as much, but I still had her a lot. Yeah, that's my point but in the beginning I didn't have more freedom than ashley did, but in in generality I was a 50 50 parent. So it's it's a lot different, but in general the woman will take after the kid I think it should be 50-50?. I think it should be, like 80-20.

Speaker 3:

Wait, wait, wait. What do you mean?

Speaker 2:

I would love this conversation right now In my situation, I just Like with a guy, like in a relationship why?

Speaker 4:

Well, I think relationships have to work if the guy likes the girl more. People always say that.

Speaker 3:

The guy usually does like the girl more yeah.

Speaker 4:

I think the guy should like the girl more, but I think that like, what about like financial wise?

Speaker 3:

I love the relationship. You like 50, 50, 50, 50. I think that maybe like 30 70 30, 60, 40, 50, 50 works so much better because no one actually has the full power.

Speaker 4:

Because you share, you split and share everything, so you think a guy should like pay for things more than of course of course, of course, but like I, yes, of course I better make more of course.

Speaker 3:

So I, I I was recently dating a girl who who made a lot more money than I did, and um, that go, um, it was going well until I decided to leave. Um, yeah, I left. Um, it was, everything was 50 50. Like we would take turns, like whether, like, I woke up in the morning and she woke up in the morning and we went to breakfast, and if I covered breakfast, she had lunch, and it wasn't even a question, like I didn't even have a choice.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

So, like we like, no matter what it was, we went 50, 50 on everything, and there was there for different reasons, but um, there was never a financial argument like, and that's what most people that's what most people fight about is finances, true, but I have a question did you, did you?

Speaker 1:

how do I put it? Um, I don't want to say did you not like it, but it didn't make me feel any more inferior or any less yeah, yeah, yeah, I was going to say there you go, she makes more.

Speaker 3:

No no.

Speaker 4:

Because even if she's making more but you're contributing the same, it helps you to probably still feel masculine, I think that, even if she makes a lot more, because sometimes people will be like, oh, since the guy makes a lot more, he should be contributing more, since he makes more.

Speaker 3:

So we went, we went. I believe that, though I believe everything. I listen. That's my father. My father's a. My father has paid for everything for my mother. My mother always did good. They're both retired rns. I don't know how much money my mother has in the bank account, but whatever, um, but like it was like for me and her, it was we. We literally did 50, 50 everything if we were booking a trip. It was never one of us booking the trip, it was us booking the trip. It was like yo, I'll either venmo you the money or whatever. Here's the rent money. Like, here's the utility money. We never once bickered and argued about money yeah, that's good that's good that's huge, never once.

Speaker 3:

and she, she could have covered it all like I could have been, as I could have just stayed home, simply, and I would have had a good life. But it was never an argument about money.

Speaker 4:

Ever, that's good. And when you don't argue about money.

Speaker 3:

You find time to argue about other things and the other arguments were bad, but as far as money, it was perfectly fine.

Speaker 2:

But at least it wasn't about that, because that would have ended sooner. I feel like essentially every man were bad, but as far as money, it was perfectly. But at least it wasn't about that, because that would have ended sooner every, every, every.

Speaker 3:

I feel like essentially every man wants to pay for everything, but then that's when.

Speaker 2:

That's when things get sour yeah, it's I think, unless you have an arrangement that, like in my relationship, like, for instance, in the beginning, like we're making similar salaries, right, I took another job and my girl lost her job so she started making less money at that point in time. So we like, like, we had a deep conversation about it, about like what she was bringing in, and then I started paying for more things during that time because, obviously, like she would add to, like cut into her savings, like, and I was still like making the same and I and I could do it. But like, having that like open communication about like what you can and can't do will serve everyone great, and like now it's like my girl's not working but, it's like if she's taking care of things that I didn't even realize were such an annoying nuance in my life.

Speaker 2:

So it's like I don't mind paying for all that shit now, because it's like every time you don't't have to worry about it.

Speaker 3:

Bro yeah.

Speaker 2:

All my meals are there, Dude, everything is always taken care of. So I think it just takes up in communication and if you realize that for yourself as a man, if you're in something where someone is paying for everything, you're like damn, I feel less than here. So I don't think that a man should ever do less than half, no matter what Figure out a way to at least do half.

Speaker 3:

For sure.

Speaker 4:

My mom has like best friends.

Speaker 3:

What's up there, Fire sweetheart.

Speaker 1:

When are you marrying her?

Speaker 3:

Wait, oh, that's not to me.

Speaker 2:

I'm like marrying who Like a marriage to the government or like through like under God, like and like, like document.

Speaker 4:

No, yeah, no.

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't say document, I would say that, like I don't believe in, I don't believe in the government getting involved in, in like who's is that? Uh, iphone, will this fit?

Speaker 2:

No, we're good alright but yeah, yeah, not, yeah. I think I think marriage through like an institution is, is a. It's a tragedy, like most, most marriages end in divorce these days, which is very sad. 70% 70% of marriages these days are initiated by women and 90 of their college educated. So right there it is. It just goes to show you that if something's going on and and this is a new stat the more people spend on their weddings, the more of a likelihood that they're going to get divorced. So it just kind of goes to show, I think, for me that I think like, the more you like put into shit, yeah, and I think for women too, like they want this like perceptive fairy tale thing every girl thinks dreams about, like having their wedding matt, do you want a big wedding or do you want a small wedding?

Speaker 2:

it's just how many people, but by stats, I don't know, it's not gonna end well.

Speaker 4:

I don't want it to be like random people, just how many people?

Speaker 3:

but by stats, I don't know.

Speaker 4:

I'm talking to him well, but how many people like would you think you would how?

Speaker 3:

many, that 225 were actually your friends 225.

Speaker 1:

I invited nobody that I didn't know all my close friends and relatives, and mostly friends.

Speaker 3:

Do they all get plus ones? Yes, so essentially those people that you your wedding, that you didn't know.

Speaker 1:

So one yeah.

Speaker 3:

So the best wedding that I think I've ever. My husband has a big family, so Okay, yeah, that was like 70 people, so for me, I don't necessarily have a big family. My family is not from the US, so my wedding would essentially be pretty small, which I would want. Depending on who I married, obviously, she could have a huge family.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, huge guy's family.

Speaker 3:

I would want a smaller wedding, which is more intimate, where I could walk around through the whole wedding and be able to talk to someone about something that we've gone through together. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's deep. So the best wedding that I think I've ever been to was a backyard wedding and it was literally just like bro, it was like it means. The best wedding I've ever been to in my life.

Speaker 4:

Damn.

Speaker 3:

It was literally every single person there was like a friend or a family member of his, or like someone that I've known since like seventh grade. So I wouldn't say I wanted a backyard wedding. I would want a smaller wedding where it's like I don't want to walk up to someone and then my wife be like oh, this is, this is uncle bob's nephew. Yeah, who the fuck are you?

Speaker 3:

yeah, uh, I have a big family yeah, as long as you have a big family and you can fill that 220 oh, yeah, it's different that, yeah, yeah, that is I'm trying to have a blast at my wedding and like the reception, I mean the ceremony, respectful, you know, like that whole interlude before, like before the reception actually starts, like you know, when it's like all right, the DJ's coming on and the lights are going down. Dj's coming on and the lights are going down.

Speaker 2:

Once those lights go down, I ain't going to remember nothing from there. Yeah, no, I think the concept of marriage and a wedding it's a beautiful thing and I think that two people should believe that they can spend their life together. And I think that in any state you can make a marriage contract with someone, that it does not have to go to the government. In any state in the rhode island you can. In any state in the united states you can change your last name. Yeah, I. I got one more question. Yeah, I would never. I would have a marriage and a wedding, but I would do things very differently than getting the government involved. Like me personally, and I'm with a partner like like that also understands and respect that. So it's a much different conversation.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But, how?

Speaker 3:

how important for you is it that, like your significant other, takes your last name?

Speaker 2:

Um, if we don't have kids, then I guess it it like it wouldn't matter to me at this point, whereas, like I feel like it's the opposite no, like, I feel like like, let's say like, so no, like, what I'm trying to say is that, like my son last name is my name and in like 10 years, when we're all at like a gathering together and if someone like asks us like like hey, I'm pat kane, this is max kane and this is julia putzkovich, the fact that we're not like united, that would be more of a like I, I would want her to have my last name because we have a child together, whereas, like, if it's just us and she was more against it I like we get out of conversation about it. But, um, I think if you have kids like, for me, it's like more of a no, like this is like united front, like in a family thing.

Speaker 2:

I, I think that's like more of of like. But I'm also speaking to my current situation. Whereas, like, if I were to propose like and ask that, I'd be like yo, like we have a kid, like that would be like, like hey, we have a kid together.

Speaker 3:

You want her to take it?

Speaker 2:

or like oh, oh, for sure, oh yeah. And even if I didn't have kids I would. I would definitely still want her to take it right is that is that a deal breaker?

Speaker 3:

like if, like, you have that conversation and she's like I'm absolutely not taking your last name, the most I think I'll do was hyphen.

Speaker 2:

I was gonna say I don't, I don't, so I've had this conversation, the reason is is that I don't think I I would even get to the point with someone that I wouldn't think would take my last name well, they're not necessarily not taking it, just to not take it, so for me it was um.

Speaker 3:

The girl I was dating was already established like years of school has. Um, has essentially books in her name. Um, there's, there's a dr in front of it like okay yeah, and um, we talked about this whole thing.

Speaker 3:

It's like that's, that was our next step. And um, she was like. She was like I'm not taking your name and obviously, as a man, that shit really hurts cuts deep and I tried to like talk and like resonate with them, like I'm like okay, but like you kind of have to give me more than that, like why. And she was like you know, I worked so hard to get here and I don't want to change this decision. I'm like okay. And then I mentioned how I wanted her to hyphenate it. Put me somewhere.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Like because if that's the case we could just stay boyfriend and girlfriend for the rest of time.

Speaker 2:

You know, that's what I was trying to say, Because if you guys do get married and then you have a kid, then like it creates more of a disconnect now. Now it's a two-on-one. This makes no fucking sense.

Speaker 3:

And she was like well know, like I worked so hard to get here and I was like no one's discrediting anything that you've ever done in your life yeah like your, your, your. Your resume essentially shows what you've done and I was like, and I looked at her dead in the face. I'm like yo, every man's like like. The reason they get married is is so like you take their name because, if not, what's the point? We can just be boyfriend and girlfriend and ride it out.

Speaker 2:

You can keep your last name that way. Essentially, that's really the only thing that changes in the public eye. You're married and you have a ring, but the biggest change is the fact that they say Mr and Mrs Rudolph Bobrin.

Speaker 3:

They don't say Mr and Mrs Rudolph Bobrin, yeah, they don't say Mr and Mrs Rudolph and Jackie, whatever, like. You know what I mean, like bro.

Speaker 2:

I'd be interested in that stat because I just had a stat about how, like most divorces are being initiated by uh, by women, and if they're college educated it goes up to 90. I'd be interested like to see if the more educated and established a woman is, the more likely she wants to take a man's last name oh, oh, bro, I could tell you right now they're not that's yeah, yeah, that's probably like a direct correlation they're not because they're like why the fuck would I do that?

Speaker 3:

I made it on my own, without a man I mean you gotta like, I mean I feel like they get all this empowerment Not empowerment like this motivation from celebrities who aren't taking their man's last name. Yeah, yeah, I mean you had Kim Kardashian West.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, kim West.

Speaker 3:

A lot of these celebrities they hold on. They're like, oh, I already have this persona of XYZ.

Speaker 2:

I can't take this oh, you're jumping on, damn that shit. That shit's just scared me. No, I'll decide what. Oh, yeah, no, I'll decide I was gonna say hailey baldwin changed her last name to beaver yeah well, you got it, it's just a beaver I would change my last name unless like she, but like he met her when she was a nobody no, that's so not true, wasn't she?

Speaker 4:

if?

Speaker 2:

wasn't she like a fan taking a picture with him?

Speaker 4:

yeah, she was, but her mom is like very famous like her yeah her dad's famous.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, she's a model, yeah no, no, no, I'm pretty sure alec baldwin's, her dad, alec.

Speaker 4:

Baldwin's the actor that shot that guy, but I don't think that's her dad. No, I don't think so, but her mom's really famous and she's a model. She was famous. I knew who she was before she wasn't as famous. Obviously, it's Justin Bieber.

Speaker 3:

I used to hate Justin Bieber.

Speaker 4:

I love Justin.

Speaker 3:

Bieber. But now, bro, I'm a big JB fan. Really, he grew on me over the years.

Speaker 2:

Bro, he made good music Dude. At first I was like what the fuck is this thing?

Speaker 3:

I'm like you guys are believers.

Speaker 2:

But then eventually, yeah, he definitely grew on me.

Speaker 3:

I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, that whole topic a little wild. It's all good. For sure, every man wants their wife to take their last name and it's gonna hurt. But if you, if you accept it, you accept it.

Speaker 2:

But it's just like that was low-key, a deal breaker for me, bro all right, but it's not even about her not wanting to do it, because that's like the symptom, right, it's the like underlying as to why we even got here to begin with, which is, like probably already caused some problems in relationship, like she feels a certain way in general that wouldn't want like to make her even, like, consider that and it's like, okay, well, like, well, that's a bigger issue at hand.

Speaker 3:

So, yeah, that's tough hey, but we're here now. Yeah, we made it through it it's all love, it's all good.

Speaker 2:

Damn dude dude, that was a good one.

Speaker 4:

Alec Baldwin's, her uncle, I told you, they were related.

Speaker 1:

So, they're related. I told you they were related, but her dad's an actor too.

Speaker 4:

Oh really, steven Baldwin.

Speaker 3:

I think that's Alec, her uncle. Yeah, so like the whole Baldwin family are all actors there Alec, william, daniel, and then there's like two girls.

Speaker 4:

So she's like a wet nipple baby she's a nipple baby, a nipple baby.

Speaker 2:

I thought she said a wet nipple baby. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3:

I thought she said nipple at first isn't that everyone's goal once you make it. You want everyone else to make it. Yeah, no it's true. I mean. Nepotism happens in all accounting firms. Anything like that. Your kid, whatever, is going to have a job in that. Whatever, whether they went to school or not, your kid's going to be raised in that and their name is just going to carry them through it all. I mean the biggest case of nepotism right now is fucking Bronny James.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

That's crazy. Bronny's a hooper. Me and you we both played ball. We could not see Bronny on the court for a second. He's going to work us absolutely. Yep Granted, should he be in the NBA based off of college?

Speaker 4:

no how old is he?

Speaker 3:

he did one year in college, so I don't know what year that age. He only did his freshman year and went right to the NBA, so he would be like 19 or like 20. Well, I'm 20, I'm a junior so yeah, he's around there, but yo, bro, when your father has changed the complete NBA.

Speaker 2:

Right, it is cool. Like I don't follow sports, but like when I see posts about them, like playing together, I'm like bro imagine that the NBA owes LeBron Like.

Speaker 3:

Imagine that they could give Bronny a couple years in the league. Yeah, right, Like his first game was what's today, today's Thursday the league. Yeah, right, like his first game was what's today, today's, today's thursday. His first game was tuesday, I believe, and he played three minutes, bro, three minutes. The whole place erupted because lebron checked in with his son.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah purposely went to the bench.

Speaker 3:

There's something special about that of course it's all planned and all that, but like dude, as a father who who's played in the league for 21 years, and like the same thing is going to happen with Deuce Tatum, jason Tatum's kid- oh, Jason Tatum. If Jason Tatum makes it so long, jason Tatum's whatever.

Speaker 4:

He's a light-skinned.

Speaker 3:

All the light-skins are loved in the NBA right now, but like Tatum's a dog.

Speaker 4:

He's so good, huh? Did you watch the Celtics?

Speaker 3:

I'm a Miami Heat fan, but you didn't watch the game. Do you see how?

Speaker 4:

many points he had. He had like 25 in the first half, Bro. I turned the game off at the end of the second quarter.

Speaker 3:

Oh my god, they were destroying. I'm like there's no way they have 23s going into the third quarter. I'm like I'm good here. Yeah, I'm like this is awful basketball that I'm watching. But yeah, no, nepotism happens everywhere, dude. Like it happens everywhere. It's just that, like Bronny only played his freshman year, didn't really even play. He averaged like four points and he's in the NBA, but like the kick and hoop. The kick and hoop. The kick and hoop yeah.

Speaker 2:

I feel like some people will like thrive off that pressure or they'll just completely crumble.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but, bro, you have to understand that his father the only thing is is like his dad is like 6'8 and Bronny's like 6'2" and 6'2 in the NBA is kind of short.

Speaker 1:

Damn.

Speaker 2:

Damn I thought I was going to make it at one point Bro.

Speaker 3:

We all had dreams in the driveway Like three, two, one. Oh, somehow there's more time on the clock.

Speaker 2:

That's when I knew I wasn't going to make it. Yeah, nah, I've never done that shit.

Speaker 3:

That's when I knew I wasn't going to make it.

Speaker 2:

Oh fuck, gonna make it. Yeah, I've never done that. That's when I knew I wasn't gonna make it. Oh fuck, that's great uh damn, this was good hey big dog bro almost two hours I appreciate you appreciate you being here.

Speaker 3:

We gotta do this again. Yeah, yeah, we gotta get mac on the camera. We gotta get shaley on the camera also.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, yeah, shaley's here every other, every other thursday, but damn, I can I can mix up the whole setup.

Speaker 3:

yeah, I can do a, yeah, a four Girls against guys, and we'll see.

Speaker 2:

Bro, imagine them together. I think we might get cooked Probably. Yeah, no.

Speaker 1:

If it's good topics.

Speaker 3:

I could talk, we should play like a card game, dude, I have. So you ever seen Truth or Drink?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we were talking about that.

Speaker 3:

I have it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, we should play that on camera, that'd be great. Yeah, but you know, yeah, no, yours is a little wackish.

Speaker 3:

That game gets scary. It happens Really. Oh yeah, there's this, there's this. If we play the red deck, it's a wrap.

Speaker 2:

I'll answer them all, but I don't think the girls will answer any of them. Oh, someone said uh, facts. My cousin had a backyard wedding and I said I'm feeling like a wedding. It felt more like a laid back like a cookout.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's a vibe, bro. You know, everyone's dressed to the t hanging out and we're celebrating the people that we love. Essentially, I don't know damn. We're like when you go to a big wedding and you're like, you're like. You're like I don't know anyone here and you're just sitting at the table. You have to figure out what's going on at your table. What do we all have in common? What about it? I'm trying to quit. It's a bad habit.

Speaker 2:

Alright, guys, thank you for tuning in. We'll be back. I'll be back with Shaylee on the 7th Dude. I might do it with my daughter on. Yeah, I think about trick-or-treating, I might jump on with her. I can't even watch it that much, yeah, I might jump on with some costumes with my daughter on the 31st, and then I'll be with Shaylee after that, and then, yeah, no, we'll figure more out. I'm hopefully gonna be back one day, bro.

Speaker 3:

Come on one of these days, give like a week or two.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, we'll get you back on. Alright, thanks for tuning in, thank you. Yeah, thank you for the questions. Very much, thank you thank you.

Speaker 3:

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